What If Garibaldi Created An Italian Republic In 1861?

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Venice was, at one point, one of the world's leading superpowers, being able to bring the Ottomans, the Pope, and the Holy Roman Emperor to negotiation through economic and industrial might alone.
They maintained a, while thoroughly corrupt, democracy from the fall of Rome until Napoleon's conquest of Italty.
So, this begs the question: *What if everything went perfectly for Venice?*

P.S. You could also do if Lotharingia survived (though I know that's out of your usual time frame) or *if the Steam Engine was never invented*

Spoon
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What if everything went perfectly For italy? Love your content btw

danielsantiagourtado
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I love the transformation of the Ottoman color throughout! Just a note, the Ottomans didn't lose Kars and Batum until 1878.

AriaRakiya
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5:12
I love how the British are always excited when they can gain influence in random places 😂

barsukascool
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6:35 i actually think that 1 of the 4 "Fathers of Italy" Mazzini would be chose, his ideology was similar to Garibaldi's one, great video!

thetoscunymapper
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One of the biggest changes on this timeline would actually occour in Argentina and Uruguay, they got a bigger italian inmigration than the US at the time, and there culture is HEAVY influenced by italian (even the rioplatence accent is know as spanish speaked as italian), plus you dont get things like tango or milonga. So, in that timeline both Argentina and Uruguay would (culturally) be complete different than today.

nocturnomediodia
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As someone with Soran background, I am glad you include the duchy of Sora in your maps covering the period it existed.

thenamesianna
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suggestion: What if the Decembrist Revolution Succeded in Russia

borisrodionov
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There's one very interesting butterfly you haven't mentioned. Hitler's Beer Hall Putche may not happen, as this event was in large part inspired by Mussolini's March on Rome. And without the shakeup of this regional coup failing, the Nazi Party wouldn't have decided on seizing power in Germany via elections instead of coups. Nazi Germany would have either not happened at all, or it would have happened in a successful coup later and may thus lack international recognition from opposed powers. Either way, German history in the 1920-30s is irrevocably altered just because Sardinia-Piedmont's King rejected Garibaldi's southern annexation in 1861.

gengarzilla
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New video dropped!
What if Norway and Sweden accepted the Franco-British plans in the Winter War?
Edit: maybe another scenario, since this was already covered, What about if Sweden and Norway sent MORE help to Finland?

PeekasLukkala
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Fun scenario, just a little correction: the success of Garibaldi in the south (and Italy) was thanks the southern nobility that in large part maintained their land privileges after unification (one of the reasons why the south was left behind), so you should have address that. Also, thanks to Cavor reforms parts of the north were already well developed (1/3 of the Austrian state’s revenues come from Lombardy-Veneto), so must likely north and south would be equal in this scenario
Good work anyway 🇳🇱❤🇮🇹

funghi
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The impact of fascism in Italy spreading to the rest of the world is understated here. Fascism was started in Italy, and the word "Fascism" is derived from the Italian Fascismo. The idea of fascism would be far more spread out, it is likely the Falangists identify as National Syndicalists, and Carlists would be fundamentally at odds with them, hampering chances of a Francoist Spain. Nazism would likely be the standardbearer of fascism in this world, and Nazism would fundamentally be different, without the influence of Italy, National Socialism would be primarily dictated by the ideas of Johann Plenge and Strasser rather than Mussolini's Italy, which inspired Hitler. Also if we say the war starts with Agadir Crisis(with the Italo-Turkish and Balkan Wars having happened before that) then we can say that Germany likely gets defeated faster with a stronger Italy and Balkans against Austria-Hungary, then it is likely the war ends by around 1915 or 1916, so that changes some stuff in the timeline, like Franz Joseph dies at the end of the war, likely meaning he tries fighting for longer and Austria-Hungary completely collapses to internal rebellion and invasion in a far more dramatic way instead of the "slow fall" they took during their last days. Maybe Austria and Hungary see communist revolutions which pair with the Spartikus Revolution. In Russia, maybe things go about the same way, the military is still reeling from the humiliation of the Russo-Japanese War so Russia could still fall to Revolution.

thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis
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As a southerner I love this scenario ❤️

ivanf.
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Your maps keep getting better! Amazing work 🔥🔥🔥🔥

danielsantiagourtado
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Garibaldi was not a federalist, that was Gioberti. Garibaldi never expressed sympathy for federalism. Huge blunder that invalidate most of the reasoning.

barrankobama
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Other big issue is that Sardinia Piedmont did denounce the expedition but nevertheless still invaded the papal states and marched against Garibaldi to prevent him getting any strange ideas. When Garibaldi capitulated the Bourbons he found himself in front of the Piedmontese army with the king which gave him a veil threat “Step aside Garibaldi your troops are tired, mine aren’t” if Garibaldi refused he would just lose and the unification will still happen although with less unity and a much more internally disunited politics.

Boretheory
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By this point, the mafia had existed for about three or four hundred years, so it's somewhat odd to say that the mafia never exist because of reforms in the 1800s

whitehawk
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Suggestion:
What if the good relations of the USA and Russian empire turned into a full on alliance after the sale of Alaska?

stargazer-elite
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It is likely to also impact the European fascist movements as for example now Mosley can't go to Italy and see it, and Ukrainian nationalists could now see the success of a liberal republican Italian reunification so instead of fascist influence they could be more liberal possibly staying true to the ideals of UNR thus possibly having better relations with the Allied powers

mekolayn
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Just a little pronunciation note from an Italian: we say Lombardìa and Vèneto. Love your content btw

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