🌹 Why Labour won't scrap tuition fees

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The low wages and high housing cost should be every governments priority

ashg
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“We won’t make false promises.”

While talking about a false promise they went back on

fireiron
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"We won't make false promises."

But your leader did to become the leader? Like multiple times he made false promises so why now does Labour only go back on the promises that hurt younger and low income people?

oscarshedwick
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"It's would cost BILLIONS!"

Meanwhile, in Scotland... Fully funded tuition, 0% interest on student loans, and a minimum 2k grant a year that you dont pay back. Not to mention scholarships. Sorry, I forgot that Scotland is just so much richer than the rest of the UK. Oh wait that don't sound exactly right.

Ziolek.
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This economic situation we find ourselves in is CAUSED by austerity. Austerity doesn’t fix these problems, it causes them.

emberd-l
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Issue with tuition and student loans is that it is regressive with one flat tax rate above a certain income and punishes middle/poor people as rich people don't necessarily need to take out loans at all.

Labour could absolutely replace the system with a more progressive banded tax system to make up revenue. Starmer and his crew are being deliberately obtuse here.

trevorwiley
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Remember kids, when the UK is implementing US ideas that Germany will continue to have great schools and cheap tuition.

moyase
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Tl;Dr: 'yes the tuition system is crippling lots of people with forever debt and I currently have no plan or intention to do anything about that'

c.j.tonnes
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Got to give it to Labour for efficitency, they don’t even wait until they’re elected to drop every moral they believe in

jimitheJive
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If you moved the full financing of education to the tax base, then those who can currently afford to pay tuition would just end up paying that plus some more in their taxes, and those who can't currently afford it would see their current tax rate unchanged. I'm guessing, though, that they fear that they can't cover tuition through marginal tax increases, because they are afraid those paying in the upper tax bracket levels, will move their assets elsewhere.

gwh
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This is why we cant let any type of charging enter the NHS, when uni fees were introduced by Labour they were 1000 pound per year as soon as the Tories got in it's 9000 pounds a year bit of a difference, anything is better than the Tories right now they have run out of ideas and any credible candidates for the cabinet

johnfrancis
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They should never charge variable interest rates on Student loans that are +3% whatever the CPI is. Right now it’s 7.3% for plan 2 students. It’s a crime, they build universities with taxpayer’s money, and then they charge their children to study there. If you’re going to loan out student loans to 18 year olds then at least give them a deal they can work with.

They say “it gets paid off after 30 years” yeah after you’ve paid triple the original loan because of the interest payments. Do the maths on a £30, 000 loan and you’ll find you’ve paid back £90, 000 meaning you’ve paid 200% of your original loan in just interest payments.

So they’ve paid off YOUR loan with YOUR money. Unless you live your life earning less than £26, 000 forever which undercuts your quality of life. How can students get on the property ladder with something like this around their neck?

jakkuwolfinsomnia
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Just draw all the funding into the STEM subjects to subsidise them as much as possible, then make people doing the non essential subjects like the arts pay full whack.

As a tax payer I actively want to pay for our next generation of scientists or technicians. I shouldn’t have to pay for someone to study art, drama or some other useless subject.

davidbetts
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To be honest, I just ran the numbers and it would cost roughly £20 billion a year to abolish tuition fees for domestic students (2, 182, 000 people * 9250 a year). Out of all the things that comes out of the government's yearly expenditure, that would be one of the cheaper things to implement. I think its totally doable to be honest. 🤷‍♂️

aslanmusic
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Labour continue to offer nothing.
They seem to be going for the "we're not the tories"

davidjones
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They're bigger liars than the Tories at times, specially with Kier, Mandleson and co.
We need Voter system reform we need to break their monopoly, oligarchy with facade of democracy, and become truly democratic.

ahmd-mi
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The money comes from taxing those who have too much of it. That's how government in a non-rentier state works, it's that simple.

kelvinnkat
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And yet the Scottish government manages it every year..

Alastair_
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Well you won't get my Vote. RR is a Tory as is Starver and Wes. University should be free for all.

paulsmith
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When will governments realize a more educated populace generates more GDP

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