Rand Paul Defends Putin's Invasion Of Ukraine

Republican Senator Rand Paul defends Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, saying the only countries Russia has attacked were former USSR nations. Secretary of State Antony Blinken responds in part by saying, "that does not give Russia the right to attack them.” The Majority Report crew discuss how Paul’s and essentially Putin’s way of thinking opens the door to a lot of complication as to how far back in time people are willing to go to justify imperialistic attacks. The MR crew also talks about Hilary Clinton's comparison of the Ukraine War to the Afghanistan War regarding Russian power as well as other imperial powers’ interest in the war.

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There was a clip of Hillary Clinton that we did, we talked about where she had equated Ukraine or the potential for Russia to meet a similar fate in Ukraine as they did in Afghanistan. And we talked about how this is you know problematic because you don't want the US to perceive this war in Ukraine as a mechanism to undermine Russia because it comes at the expense of the lives of human beings. Because think of the incentive structure the elongation of a conflict if you have people in power thinking this way and I think the reason that Hillary Clinton was going on Maddow's show at that time was to get the attention to some of the people in the bible white house like this is an opportunity to really weaken Putin here and it's some of it's just an insight into like the sociopathic way that a lot of our powerful actors in the US government view some of these conflicts as proxies for their own particular interests, the people on the ground be damned. And now we're seeing it's just a blank check really in terms of weapons going into Ukraine which I'm sure those same ghouls are happy about. Yes well, I mean that I mean and they're the ones who are offering that blank check and you know. Chomsky has during my brief coveted convalescence Chomsky was making waves by talking about this problem where the united states did not from his perspective do everything it could to diffuse the situation at the same time you know recognizing that Putin is to blame for this situation it is just a question of what would be the u.s reaction to this would it do everything it could to minimize death and destruction or would it contribute to the the the extension of the conflict as a way of diminishing Russia. With all that said there's another element here and that is the agency of Ukraine you know and this is the dilemma I think on some level that we face on the left and particularly you know the folks who have a problem with imperialism because this is no doubt Russian imperialism. There's also western imperialism that is involved here it's just one that is a little bit softer and it is softer. The question is you know how do you what do you do in this situation because should the united states use its power to force the Ukrainians to surrender and essentially give up their autonomy and their own agency to the Russian government?

[FaltFerngoth]

And I support Paul's neighbor who beat him up. I also blame the neighbor for not being thorough.

[kevadu]

I think you guys are actually being too cynical about the weapon thing. Many countries are increasing the support for giving Ukraine weapons because they've realized that Ukraine actually has a chance of *winning* . Most people don't want to throw money or other resources at lost causes. But Ukraine is *not* a lost cause. They've done remarkably well.

[skwame]

You can’t legitimately answer that question without considering the geopolitical impact of a Russian win

[ekrenz]

Ukraine gave up its nukes to be a nation. Everyone seems to forget that.

[impossiblevisits]

Hell you talking about? What does "doing everything we can to minimize destruction" mean? Allowing Russia to dictate "peace" terms and be rewarded with vast stretches of Ukrainian territory? Defense against evil cannot be moderated or calibrated to "avoid an extended conflict."

[kingyellowman]

Funny how the antiwar guy is only antiwar when it doesn't matter

[Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

Stop with this concern trolling over providing weapons to Ukraine. They are fighting off an imperialist invasion.

[默-cr]

I have to disagree here, Ukraine is being invaded by a bunch of barbarian troops who are literally raping women, there is only Russian Imperialism here, no "Western Imperialism." If Ukraine asks for something, then they need it and we should do what we can to give it to them.

[MatthewSmith-lylp]

If this isn’t t the definition of a traitor I don’t know what is. And he’ll get re-elected again and again. I am so sad and worried for my children. We are screwed if the republicans regain control as they will never need to relinquish it again.

[HM-huhu]

Emma is basically saying, let Russia do whatever they want. Give them whatever they demand. Let the people in those areas live under a brutal dictatorship. Just don't let America get involved.

I am disgusted.

[tomfrombrunswick]

The flow of weapons are largely defensive. Hand held missile launchers etc. The US has vetoed Poland supplying aircraft. Surely a good idea to supply weapons to Ukraine wins

[bajes]

I'd say it's Ukraine's autonomy that we need to focus on. Ukraine should fight for as long as it wants to.

[TheShortStory]

There doesn’t “have to be a line”. Emma says it was OK to provide weapons initially but not anymore. On what basis? Russia still occupies significant parts of Ukraine. What’s changed? If this is about not prolonging the conflict, then helping to kick Russia out is just a valid an option as leaving Ukraine alone in a static war with Russian occupiers in Donbas. Arguably, inaction is worse because it allows for unchallenged genocide in Donbas.

[roc]

saying that sending weapons to Ukraine prolongs the conflict is like saying that getting more chemo prolongs the suffering. as long as you have a fighting chance you should never surrender. next life I want to be born an Ukrainian, they are the strongest nation on earth

[xantrio]

I've been watching 'The Majority Report' for more than 6 years and I've never been so disappointed and saddened as I am right now with your stance on Ukraine. I realised a couple of years ago, when we lost Michael that he took a huge part of what I loved about this show with him. I'm sure he would have explained in depth how under no circumstances we can let Russia win, how it will not stop to only invading Ukraine and how the US has a duty under the Budapest Memorandum to do everything in its power to defend Ukraine's sovereignty.

[Draxtor]

Ohhh my family in Germany remembers little Adolf saying “wait a minute, Poland was part of us at one point in time. Let’s go get!!!”

[Fragenzeichenplatte]

Yes, we need to talk about the weapons going into Ukraine - talk about how we can send more so Ukraine can push out the fascist invaders.

[AlexA-kolu]

You either support Ukraine's defence or not. "It was OK to give Ukraine weapons in the beginning" is such a weak point of view.

The truth is if you want to shorten the war while keeping the country of Ukraine intact we should be giving the most weapons we can....along with massive sanctions. Half measures will result in more deaths and the extension of the conflict.

[jfrancis]

By Paul’s logic Rome should reclaim Gaul.

[adamrisch]

Rand Paul proving yet again that he's as phony as they come. How many times over the years have I heard people claim this clown was "anti-war" lololol.