Motorcycle Riders – You Accelerate Too Early

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Do pro motorcycle riders actually roll the throttle throughout the corners? Or do they have a neutral phase in corners?

Should we "always be on the throttle or on the brakes"?

Lets look at pro racers ride and see how they go through corners.
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Fantastic video Mike! I love all the "mythbusting" that's taking place on YouTube lately!

CanyonChasers
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"Either be on the throttle or on the brakes" still correct. No one meant that you have to be either 100% on the throttle or 100% on the brakes.
constant throttle phase is still a throttle input. 🙂
great video.🤟

Shahar_C
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Always nice to see you Mike, Keep it Up! 👍👍
*Ps. Your supermoto journey would be great to share as a series, no need of fancy editing.
Just some raw footage and a small ''today's'' story!

Ride Safe dude see ya!

AnglosM
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The phrase isn’t misleading, it means you never let the bike coast. Always give a bit of throttle but not enough you accelerate

ktmsmr
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Great content as always Mike. Very timely to. I ride offroad, mainly cross country, some mx but have also spent plenty of time on road bikes. Yesterday whilsts flat tracking/ natural terrain mx riding there were a couple of flat turns on the track that could only be ridden at constant throttle for what seemed like a long way around the turn. One turn had formed a berm at the exit but if you tried to accelerate before that you just lost traction.

vinceseyb
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great tips. I always thought the phrase "Either be on the throttle or on the brakes" was more pointed at riders coasting before getting to the braking point. I do the think the phrase is misleading. You make a great point, there is going to be turns where you can't be on the throttle immediately after hitting an apex. Theres a turn ( 3-4-5-6) at cota that if you throttle after apex, you will blow the next one.

flip_moto
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Great video!
This is even true with short corners with motogymkhana, (be it with raised idle speed, so there's still a tiny amount of "throttle".)
I also practice gymkhana with the MTB were you really get audible feedback of the front tire squeeling under full lean, or with trail braking.

Fastbeer
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Thank you so much. I've been riding since I was 15 back in 1968, and I'm still learning! It seemed like every new bike I've had kept getting heavier and heavier. So I went smaller and got a KTM 690 SMC-r in 2020. It's most fun Moto bike I've ever ridden. Thanks again

mikeennis
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This may be a bit nitpicky but: "On the throttle" for me means that you dont have the throttle closed fully, it does not mean accelerating. If you want to hold your speed, you have to have the throtte a bit open, otherwise you start to engine brake. So in other words, even when you open the throttle wide a second later now, you are still always on the throttle.

TheBlackob
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I really do think tips like these help a lot, I've recently started doing supermoto trackdays, its really fun! Hoping to see more tip-based videos of yours!

duncandehulst
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When you go neutral throttle on the corner you can feel the suspention working as it is supposed to. For me this is the way of balancing the susp trail, taking it to the point to where it can handle another accel or deccel. I am no pro or even close tho. Just sharing... It is always refreshing to watch your engineering approach to riding Mike

cartaun
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YCRS school is phenomenal. Looking forward to going back. Kyle and Chris are great.

timetter
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Increasing speed(applying more throttle) is the main way to reduce lean angle. Theoretically you could reduce lean angle just by tightening your steering angle, but it would be weird and slow.

In Motogymkhana we learn this concept early on because we make turns at maximum steering angle(full lock), so the only way to get out of the rotation(reduce lean angle) is to add throttle, since we can't turn tighter.

atypical_moto
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Part 3 of moto history! Always enjoy your work Mike - best of luck on the track

GreenMntMoto
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Nice! This is similar to what Simon Crafer said on his youtube channel. Y\ou dont want to be the first to get back on the throttle after a corner. "You want to be the first to get to full throttle."

conortobin
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another amazing video! completely agree with you. The best thing I have learned in the last two year is to wait, let the bike turn completely and then open up the throttle!

BikesEddie
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0:14 - its not rolling it constantly to full throttle.. it's not to close it again after you just opened you throttle.

and 0:05 doesn't necessarily mean not to coast. you can both be on the gas and not be accelerating. you can be on the gas then wait for your reference point/s to go full throttle

KimmyR
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Such awesome teaching. So happy when i see Mikes video pop up

jkjk
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Great advice. Works on the road too. Especially in wet conditions.

bobbybackmarker
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My first thought seeing the title "wym I'm going full throttle to fast" then after seeing the video "isn't common knowledge that you're basically always supposed brake before the turn maintain speed in the turn and accelerate out of the turn" like that's legit course material to get your motorcycle permit

joshkreiser