WHY MOST MASTERPIECE COLLECTORS DO NOT COLLECT VINTAGE G1 THESE DAYS

[brianbuchmeier]

I’m trying to collect both but have a lot more masterpiece because of exactly what you said. I can accept the price for masterpiece because of the size, engineering, and look. The prices people are asking for small, beat up, and honestly not-great-looking vintage figures is ridiculous.

[ademitchell]

I'm 47 and grew up during the G1 era, so the nostalgia hit is very potent for me, also finally being able to acquire G1 toys that were originally never available where I live in the UK is great and not figures for the sake of completion but stuff that I really wanted back in the day and finally have such as Predaking, the Monsterbots, Metalhawk etc. Masterpiece is awesome and the designs and engineering is for the most part awesome too and I tend to find that guys that are younger than me collect the Masterpiece line but I just love, still after all these years, the original Diaclone designs and the more abstract stuff from the latter G1 waves, with 1988 wave 5 being my fave toys and designs of all time. The beauty of collecting and being a Transformers fan is that their is something for everyone.

[macca]

I like the look of Masterpiece but I’m strictly a vintage G1 collector. I have a few friends that collect masterpiece and forever upgrading to the better looking version. That I don’t like, forever chasing your tail and constantly upgrading and selling. What I enjoy about vintage G1 collecting is that it resonates with my childhood and the toys I grew up and played with, and on top of that there is a beginning and a end to G1 and I’m almost finished my G1 collection and once that is done and I’ve sold my spare figures and accessories I can just sit back and enjoy my fully displayed collection. I would hate to be constantly looking to upgrade.

[lareh]

Years ago, I purchased a vintage G1 Sunstreaker amongst other TFs from someone, and was shocked with how small it was to when I remembered it. I think one piece not mentioned in this video is that MP figures often have the relative size to our adult hands as the old school figs had in our child-size hands. So am omnigonix or badcube or MP sunstreaker also tickles some nostalgic handling triggers.

With the exception of one "character"/"mold", I don't "collect" G1 vintage toys; but might pick them up if I see them for a reasonable price (like when Walmart had them clearancing in store, or a convention has something unique... like Japan/Takara/diaclone variants green ratchet and black ironhide).

The exception is the chunky monkey, 1/55 scale jetfire. As an adult, I've gotten macross renditions, takara releases, Bandai releases, KOs, colorful customs, and yes, some vintage G1s of that toy & armor. That toy was my favorite as a kid. What a satisfying *_triple-changer_*

[themadhamster]

I collected G1's in the late 90's out of nostalgia but sold them all in the early 2000's when I realized most of them just looked awful. Engineering and scale wise they are just a mess. many barely resemble their cartoon counterparts. You overlook that as a kid but as an adult it just starts to bother you. I'm glad that now we have MP's and legends figures that closely resemble the cartoon and that are way more posable.

The cartoon isn't much different actually. You could make a whole episode on the G1 cartoon. As a kid it was my favorite cartoon but watching it now I just notice how all over the place the storytelling is and how many visual mistakes were made.

[SkyFireDrone]

I love the nostalgia of the originals. I never got my originals back from a friend’s house when I was a kid and have been kicking myself for 35 years! I have found quite a few on ebay, and still have the G2’s I got back then but even if I managed to replaced all of the G1s I had, they still would not be MY G1’s, you know? So it is a glorious time to be a collector again with the modern version we have now. The engineering and pose-ability figures have now are simply amazing. Masterpieces are a steep price range so for now I’ll stick with the retail stuff, I think. Maybe some KO’s may be worth it but I am a guy who believes in honoring the source so I don’t have any of those just yet either. The WFC versions have taken root for me and I now have more Transformers than I’ve ever had in my life🤓

[lowellmartens]

That is exactly why I don't collect G1. I have all my figures from childhood, they are important to me, and are displayed, but I don't have the desire to get anymore now that MP style exists. Thanks for the video. Very enjoyable conversation.

[SavedByGRACE]

I collect MP for display, and G1 for nostalgia and actually transforming.

[captaincid]

I collect masterpiece and both G1, mint in package...bootlegs from China on ebay. If you are leaving them sealed, they completely look the part, fulfill the want and pass as originals. And they're, in comparison, very affordable. My bootleg G1 collection, if it were real, would be worth thousands. It's a nice illusion.

[sammyboy]

when i first collected the transformers back in 1984 i was so exited but only about the cars and planes..megatron sucks back then but i managed to collect all of them..but i remember wishing that they would be cartoon accurate..i waited so long since 1984 and now i am 56 yrs old..and finally getting cartoon accurate transformers..i was worth the wait!!

[Nitronus_Prime]

I’m a masterpiece collector, but I made a exception for G1 Optimus Prime because of how iconic the figure is. I had to get it and don’t regret it!

[shadowdouglas]

Also not where you get yours but in Pa there atleast 150 dollars i have Grimlock Optimus prime Soundwave Acid storm most of the Toys R us exclusives.

[artrendon]

Wouldn't call myself a collector, but I recently started picking up, MP scale figures from various 3rd party companies.
Only official MP I have is MP-29. For me it's what I remember from childhood, the somewhat smooth and stylized looks from the cartoons. And the fact that there are so many options you can get in terms of price, quality, etc... gives that feeling we all had back in the day of, "NEW TOYS!!"

[SlashTheWeasel]

Interesting video and I might use it for conversation on FB group I'm on. I enjoyed reading others' comments on what they do for their TF collection. We all do things differently. I am TF collector and I have only couple of MPs of characters that are important and loved by me. To me they are that tad bit too complex for me and I prefer the store bought Hasbro toys which to me look awesome and capture everything I want of the toy and character. MPs are beautiful rendition of their old cartoon selves. I also have original G1 toys. I agree with others' comments about what they sell for even an old wreck which is "huh" moment. I would never sell off my original G1s and I'm still slowly buying original like once year I'll get couple I don't have. I figure with the prices and the thrill of the hunt, I'm in no hurry to get original. Took me years to get original Springer at toy show.

[theafroalien]

I still collect G1. Several duplicates. Nostalgic purposes. The box, box art, the toy, the memories, the whole experience.
Don’t believe I’ll ever stop collecting G1 or G1 MP

[Jayce_Alexander]

I stopped collecting G1 in the early 2000s. Did not get into the MP/3P scene until about 2016. To me it's not about the price. Rather there's just no point in collecting old, broken down, badly aged toys from 40 years ago that barely represent the characters I grew up loving. When I was a kid my imagination was able to do the job of making them look like Transformers. As an adult it just doesn't work that way anymore. I love my MPs and my 3P stuff. I love that it looks so much like the animation models. I love the sheer ingenuity of some of the engineering. I love that I can use them to create beautiful dioramas that look like they came straight out of the show or the movie. Most of my G1 stuff is in storage, and I suspect most of it will stay there for the rest of my life. Occasionally I'll go and open some boxes, and just spend some time reminiscing about when I got them (mostly from my parents, grandmother, and brother). I'll never get rid of them, but to me they're mementos of a better time in my life and of people I loved who are no longer there, rather than a collection. I have no nostalgia for G1 Transformers in general; the only thing I have nostalgia for are the G1 Transformers I actually own because they have memories attached to them of people I miss dearly.

[joejoesim]

I have two reasons:

1. I gave up all my GI Joes as a kid, and a few years ago decided to recreate my old collection. With TF however, I still have my vintage collection from when it wasn’t vintage at all. It’s not large, but there is nothing I am missing. Except for the rush maybe.

2. The toys mostly “sucked” in comparison to the animation rendering of the same characters. The playability, though, was usually great. G1 TF were usually robust, and were fun to transform. However, they lacked the most important thing for fans of the animation - similarity. As a child, my imagination was bridging that gap. As an adult, however, I am craving for an accurate rendition of the characters I was a fan of. This is also why some mp collectors never transform their figures - not only is the transformation process not fun on the most part, but the very thought of damaging the figure in any way, causes more anxiety than the potential joy of handling the alternate mode. With that said, I would never buy a transformer that doesn’t transform. Go figure.

[kingrousereviews]

I have a few vintage pieces in my collection but my target is definitely masterpiece right now and I’m picking up every toon version of the transformers cast season 1-3…😉

[thetoystorecardscollectibl]

I am all in on masterpiece scale...but I collect Vintage only in MISB OR AFA Graded for the time capsule effect.. That is the only thing that can replicate that feeling of walking into Toys "R" Us in 1985 and seeing Transformers stacked to the ceiling.
But opened, I want masterpiece for a close as toon replication to get the feeling of jumping right out of the sunbow cartoon.

[tommyjwallace]

I collect both, but have slowed down on both fronts. I used to be all in on MP, but was pretty disenchanted by the overengineering and the necessity of watching a video tutorial to go from one form to the other. I would really like to see a 3rd party G1 style engineering bot. I know there were a few of those about 10 years ago from Impossible Toys, but I haven't seen anything like them since. I prefer that old chunky G1 era aesthetic at the end of the day, and this is coming from someone who has most FansToys & Transform Element / DS releases.