The Role of Women in Ministry

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Matt Chandler, Josh Patterson and Jen Wilkin sit down to talk about the role of women in ministry. As a complementarian church, we believe men and women have distinct roles that are both essential and indispensable to God’s mission.
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1st Timmothy 2:11
Titus 2:3
1 Corinthians 14:34
Genesis 1-3, 3:6 highlights that the deception was for Adam and Eve to switch places.
Forgetting this summons calamity. There are neither better nor worse, but different to the glory of God.
God bless the reading of His word and the earnest heart who yearns for His understanding.

oliverallen
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Not sure who the audience this was recorded for. They discuss little on what the bible says about women in leadership positions in the Church. Seems like they deliberately avoided the Pauline instructions. At the end I wanted to shout "It's not about your kids having women role models in the church, it's about clear biblical teaching". It seems like these folks want a culturally acceptable middle ground and happy wrap it all in elegant words.

ryanmack
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I enjoy the shared grace they are giving to this currently difficult topic. However, I am having trouble distinguishing what was changed, restructured or newly flowed out of from their recent discussions on this topic at The Village Church. I heard them say they want to be faithful to complementarianism. I did not hear that they wanted to be faithful to scripture. I would have liked to hear more about the specific roles women at this church can hold. It sounded like a women can be an elder since they specifically said their men in leadership need women’s opinions on important church matters. So while I enjoyed the grace displayed here, it felt somewhat like they are tip toeing around the real issues. Overall I didn’t find it that helpful.

patriciasanford
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The role which is assigned by the creator to men and women should be followed! The Bible is absolutely obvious what to do!

lawrencemarks.p.tamang
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20 minutes of talk and I'm still not sure what they're trying to say, hardly any engagement of the scriptures and no practical application.

ronpaulable
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A lot of people CLAIM to be complementarian who are really chauvinist. Like “men and women are equal but have different roles” quickly becomes “men’s roles are more important than women’s roles.” And very frequently a woman’s voice is just simply not heard in the decision making of the Church, and that is wrong. People say they are complementarian, but their message to women is “just bring the brownies and keep your mouth shut.” This discussion seeks to take things in a better direction for the life of the Church. It isn’t a denial of differences, it’s an insistence that those differences are good, necessary, and important to the life of the church, and that women can’t just be on the sidelines.

JStucki
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They said a lot and at the same time nothing, I’m confused why they’re not engaging in scripture on this matter.

ValOrthodoxia
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God will give both men and women an anointing as a pastor. What is pastor, really? A pastor tends the flock, which is not a building. I would never, ever, wish to be on a church staff. I'm perfectly fine in the season I am in, in social services and using my Sundays to serve as a worship leader for children. God uses me in those areas and the pastor gift is cultivated. I become MORE of the woman He intended me to be because of this gift.

misskat
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One conversation is " Women's vital part in church ministry" - Another conversation is "Church Leadership and its Biblical order". It's very clear .

NetGroups
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that question on 13:57, Paul answered it in 1 timothy 2:12

makivaboy
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Thank you for working through the complications of an egalitarian complementarianism!! It is worth the knee pains and head strains to find a place where both women and men thrive within the Holy boundaries of scripture. This is a very encouraging view.

spacebbq
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The bible says many will try to get into the kingdom of God but will not be able to because they have other believe than God

anthonyesparsen
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Im confused with the discussion the presentation of women ministry is not that clear... and no scriptural basis...

josephparungaoandchristine
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When Jesus called His disciples, all twelve were men! If He had picked even one woman, we wouldn't be having this discussion! As far as the office of apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor/ teacher/ elder, these positions are to be held by men. This issue is not a cultural one but goes back to the order set up by God in Genesis even before the fall. The order is God the Father over His Son Jesus; Jesus is over the man; man is over the woman! Jesus did not feel slighted when His Father called Him His Servant. The Holy Spirit did not feel slighted when Jesus called Him the Helper. Women should not feel slighted when God created them to be a helpmate for the man! We all have our roles to play and when we are in our roles we find it to be the most fulfilling place and the safest place to be!

douglaswebster
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Why is she saying order out of chaos when discussing Biblical matters?

raining_trees
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The reason women shall not teach or have authority over men, is because they shouldn't have to. What woman really wants a man who does not want to take on the responsibility of leadership?

d.d.
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PLEASE STUDY OBEY THE TRUTH OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES... NOT YOUR OWN OPINIONS (1 Timothy 2:11-15)

Obi
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Study Koine Greek and the punctuation...LOL...Study Priscilla, study Phoebe, study Galatians 3:28 You are not going to stand before a Board of Men in Heaven and answer to them. You will stand before God.

dawneve
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I don't understand what's going on they are not getting to the point why don't they invite pastor Gino Jennings on are they trying to stay away from pastor Gino Jennings

flashgordon
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Men who have been given the gift of pastor unless they have been through Bible college and granted a licence can't be pastors in much of what calls itself the church. So what came first according to scripture. The gift are Bible college? Question to Matt. Why do you believe your son will. be a pastor, when it's a gift and not something past down from Father to son through training.Maybe I have picked you up wrong.

Jeff-gryl