The insane Froot Situation #vtuber

SMH SMH
#Vtuber #Hololive #nijisanji

[Erin-icse]

It’s honestly been making me really want to leave the online vtubing community and stick to just watching my oshis with no fan content involved . The whole thing has really disgusted me to my core. Ive seen some really disturbing things be said in regards to women and abuse in general…

[KeebeThePlush]

Insanity how much this made me think differently

[sse]

Move on❌
Bring up a drama from year ago☑️

[darklord]

This situation is just so chaotic and super bad.

[XxExtremeSamX]

Years ago, when Froot’s IRL mom started harassing people who were speaking out against her, I opted to stay far away from her.

[YATLVA]

Ya know it’s more rare for your wife not to cheat on you after you come back from the military but off track people on twitter no matter what will read something and won’t believe or can’t read in general

[TheSpaceMarine]

I gave up trying to make sense of the froot situation because it has become just a massive shitshow or shitstorm which ever you prefer to call it

[failfurby]

Once again, nuance is lost on the Internet. She may have cheated, but that doesn't mean she wasn't abused. I don't condone cheating, but that doesn't mean I can't support her in her struggle to heal from a traumatic experience. Kson was 100% correct.

[EliasTJ]

Trying to approach the whole situation (and almost every other situation in general, to do with her, couple current vshojo members, and ex members) from the perspective of "In the event X, Y and Z happened, but I can't be sure if they did the way they were represented as: I'm gonna approach X, Y and Z separately". Because even those doing bad things, can be victims. They might be the worst person on earth, but they are still a victim. Their victimisation is equally as morally and ethically wrong, as anyone else. And holding some form of karmic debt over their head, to decide if they are valid... only hurts other victims by placing conditions and stipulation on if they are allowed to be heard when hurt.

That preposition being established... I never felt I could objectivly trust Froot or any rumors about her. Not because "I don't want to believe she's good/evil", or because being targeted "must have a reason behind it". But... because the whole thing was so messy and muddy. I wasn't sure if the metaphorical ground I was standing on while shin deep in sludge, was even dirt or a concrete boulder someone dragged in under the surface. And once I would take a step in the sludge towards any point of view, if I'd fall from the boulder and get stuck elbows deep in mire.

Every crumb of drama or situation with her, also felt like commenting on or criticising her was "talking sides". For a lack of a better metaphor, things felt very "my way or the highway". Even in seemingly individual situations like (as far as i understand) the transphobic "pro-trans" charity fundraiset situation, a lot of people online were pulling in other past events or irl life details, to justify why *this spesific situation* was X, Y or Z and anyone saying otherwise was Å, Ä, and Ö. Also instead of focusing the scope on a single thing and then seeing how that fits together with other things - a lot of people approached the situation from the widest point of view and made deductions on X, Y and Z based on those.
"X has to be false, since she has a transgender sibling": "ye but she said transphobic things in the past, so that doesn't count. And thus X has to be true.": "if you think she's transphobic, you are defending her on Y! How dare you!"

I have never watched her streams or content, nor engaged with clips of her outside of when she was collabing with someone else. So I don't know how much she or her community encouradged this behavior. But... like some other comments have said... regardless of if we're speaking about her fans or haters... I don't really want to be pushed into the mud fight... I'd rather discuss things calmly... but because I'm not even sure what things are true and which are false... all of this just seems like a really unfortunate situation. The only people who look like they know the truth... seem to also be the people dirrectly involved. And if I can't even trust them... I just hope they can find happines at the end of all this somewhere and somehow.

EDIT: When someone comes forward as a victim, always ALWAYS believe them. Even if they turn out not to be one, or have lied in the past. Victims deserve to be heard and respected. And doubting someone speaking up can do so much worse damage to someone vulnerable, than giving undeserved grace to someone "faking it". I believe froot was wronged and misstreated. I don't have any desire or wish to doubt her. The previously written points about if I believe she's "good or evil" and "trustworthy", meant to describe my thoughts on her general character. How she presents herself and the discussion around her. Not the contents of the document. The whole alphabet and ABC-book, not single alphabetical letters or combinations of words.

[yasYL]

And it's a bit funny because the person accusing her of cheating has done so much worse is that no one's even certain that she cheated

[axal]

Hot take cheating on an abuser is fair game.

[Unkown-]

honestly I can’t take her word, she has bin a known back stabber, liar, and manipulative in the past, and it’s hard to really take any of these messages and take them as factual, unless a third proven party comes out to say she or ex are telling the truth I can’t really trust any of them

[santiagovazquezvilarino]

The people who attack her are so happy to do it that the more they insist on raising the dead, the more convinced I am that the accusations against her are rubbish.

[ExploitedAsian]

Froot and her ex are both terrible people, there's no winner. One was abusive and one was deceitful smh

[mrchapin]

No matter what happens with her in her personal life. I'm still going to support her. She's not at a horrible person.

[Seras_Victoria]

This shit shouldn't have been released on the internet at all most people moved on and forgot. Dumb move

[onityrone]

I take this situation as 2 shitty people together except one is worst than the other. That's it. I don't support either of them. I can empathize with the situation but I don't agree with her actions.

[Stachelbeeerchen]

Why do these keyboard warriors even care so much about her lovelive to obsess over it? It's just a random person piloting a pretty picture.

It's not that deep.

[Kasuto]

I am a vehement supporter of our troops and do my best to defend them against undeserved criticism. However, what Froot’s ex had done to her is disgusting. He’s a monster wearing a uniform he doesn’t deserve. I’m glad she got away from him and got out of that horrifying relationship. I hope she’ll be able to weather this storm

[LTFiresaw]

The worst part about the whole situation is the people who believe all the bad stuff said about her, especially the false cheating allegations.