Powercreep In One Piece

Justin talks about powercreep in the One Piece card game.

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Sunseed Combo Speedrun:

0:00 - One Piece's Meta History
10:32 - Legacy and Generic Support Creep
15:27 - Limited New Themes and The Future

[squidge]

The year is 20XX, Bandai has given up. Foxy is teir 0 due to the new "Davy Back Fight" mechanic allowing you to steal opponents cards.

[yofyo]

this is my only exposure to one piece tcg, exclusively from your channel
thank you for your hard work

[SehonUltd]

13:25 “17 don in value for 8 don”

It actually gives up to 21 don in value. 8 from Moria, 4 from Rebecca, 2 from helmeppo, 3 from spandine, and 4 from the Lucci that spandine recurs

[安土竜]

The card game has printed cards around letting you play just about every faction that has appeared in the series. You can even make a Foxy Pirates deck or an Alabaster Kingdom deck or a Fishman Island deck or a Vinsmoke Family deck. You can even make an Uta deck that has 0 characters other than Uta herself and fill the rest of it with her songs. This kind of video makes me feel a little disappointed that people aren't having fun leaning into using such themed decks or making their favorite characters work.

But the faction I have been waiting for since day 1 has not yet been printed. I have diligently collected all of the Garp, Drake, Koby, Helmeppo and pals (Rika, Tashigi) cards of every color while I wait for Prince Grus, Kujaku and Hibari to be printed and to finally get my Koby leader card. Since they are finally being animated now, I hope it won't be very much longer.

[sephnickel]

Typical Bandai behavior. It happens to all their TCG. Artificial scarcity, extreme power creep and too many TCG's in their portfolio that cannibalize each other.

[radutaga]

I played most tcgs that I could get my hands on, including all the big 3, one piece, star wars, flesh and blood, digimon, etc.

Right now one piece is in my top 3 along with magic and swu, it feels amazing to play and even the "bad" metas weren't nearly as bad as the current yugioh format or some of the bad mtg eternal format metas.

I'm excited for what is to come and hopefully they'll keep supporting old leaders and keep the game on track

[josephmartin]

The following is my opinion without watching the video, just wanted to share my thoughts because I’ve thought about it a lot. I think that power creep is not that bad in this game considering a couple factors.

Firstly, I still see people saying when new leaders are announced stuff like “hey I think you should run this old card that hasn’t seen play in forever.” It’s very impressive to me that not only new or even newer cards are used, and not just with a couple powerful exceptions. New leaders will come out that make tons of old cards suddenly see use after they haven’t been in the meta. Bonney revived the Supernovas from the first starter pack. Lucci revived the cp9 cards that had potential in 03 but lacked a leader that let them shine. This makes the whole of the game feel very dynamic and a lot more balanced out.

Second, the leaders used are not just new leaders. Blue Doflamingo is a big example of this. He very recently resurged after getting support from new cards, which I wouldn’t expect in a game with a big power creep problem. Enel is the 2nd or 3rd most prominent leader despite coming out back in 05. What this means is that even if they are now good because of new good cards, the leader ability is good enough to beat out new leaders.

Last, though this seems like a simple thing, it’s big for me that the game isn’t in a state of win conditions. Many other TCGs (like MTG) will eventually have a combination of things that let you just super quickly win out the game. OP has a fundamental gameplay system that makes accidental win conditions easier to stop. I stayed away from seeing the “meta” until very recently because I didn’t want to see people talking about “play this leader with this deck and you can super quickly just kill them.” What I found instead was that just playing the game by putting some good cards under a leader that has a fitting effect can generally make you a good deck. There’s things like RP Law and Lucci that are meta for card removal potential, but a) people are talking about the meta soon shifting from removal to swarming, and b) that’s just because they set up good ways to remove characters, not facilitate a way for a couple key cards to wipe and give complete advantage. I overall think power creep has been very well managed apart from specific cards that are then usually banned. Rn I’m expecting please please please banning Black Maria because she’s making RP Law so obnoxious. Just banning Law wouldn’t be the worst either but he’s not that oppressive without her. Anyways, these are my thoughts. I can’t watch the video yet but I probably will. If so, I’ll come back and reply to this with any thoughts.

[segfault]

One thing that could keep the game fresh with the large number of cards, is introduce more tournaments with deckbuilding restrictions. For example, highlander (singleton) decks, decks with only the leader's factions, odd/even DON cost tournaments.

[rockycaroozo]

I’ve never played the game but this video was fantastic. Great post-mortem on how a game develops. Excellent comparisons to other games. Good stuff.

[-inm]

Always consistent quality in these videos! I would love to see a Magellan deck profile now that I rewatched your channel again!

[dreamwalking]

This gives me hope that The Black Cat Pirates will receive future support. Captain Kuro is one of my favorite antagonists, but after reading his leader ability I lost any enthusiasm to build a deck around him, it seems like a massive investment for a very small payoff.

[noscopem]

Absolutely right. Every deck in OP07 has something that your opponent doesn't like about it (Black vs Green or Green vs Yellow). Still it's the most fun I had playing since I started in 04.

[Unknown-qjsm]

I’m excited to play the game. I spent 50 recently buying like 150 commons and proxied off about 15 $5-$50 cards to see if I like the deck. I’m going to using these to build 3 decks I’m interested in to try out.

[stereoraediova]

You beat me to the punch! LOL
I'm working on the same concept right now, but you made some really good points. Good work! Hopefully Bandai does something soon.

[leptitgros]

17:39 There is that devil fruit logo (botttom right of the card next to rarity) that nobodies knows what it is for... but is rumored to be used for set rotation in the future

[jpart]

Digimon set 9 was the tipping point in bad powercreep for bandai and really change the game, I'm glad this didn't happened at least yet in OP

[MCcreeperlover]

I appreciate this video, I know nothing about this tcg but am slightly interested because of the ip and company backing it (not some small indie dream) and I hope that this tcg doesn’t go down in flames. I’ve always been skeptical about tcgs that are not the big 3 . I’m sure the power creep will still happen but hopefully it gives enough flare to keep players interested

[nathanielg]

Wow I like how those ppl in this video don't used card sleeves for there AA cards 😢

[purplex]

I genuinely thought this was for the anime XD

[DarkDodgers]

Your channel helped get me into the OPTCG. I still have my gripes about the game after playing for a couple of months.

My biggest one being that it feels like they don't want to give Blue any power at all. The multicolored leaders I think are to blame for this. They offer too much power in both their effects and their combinations. It ultimately dooms any powerful cards to be abused. That's why everyone wants effects to be limited to leaders in my opinion. I don't agree fully, but it HURTS to see a whole color suffer for the sins of a SINGLE leader.