When did Germans know they had lost WW2?

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[lukesherry]

As soon as the 6th panzer army was encircled at Stalingrad, the war was lost

[ozzyijsthee]

He knew it after they lost Stalingrad.

[lookatthisstupidcomment]

I'm pretty certain most german generals knew that they had more or less lost in 1943

[joelspringman]

Hitler wanted a negotiated peace.
The same could be said for Japan, except they wanted it early in the war with the U.S. They thought the Americans had no stomach to fight.

[howardcui]

When Steiner couldn’t gather enough men to mount an attack.

[rivalstemplar]

I saw an interview once with a German infantry soldier and they asked him this very question. His response was “ Dec 11 1941, they day Hitler declared war on the Americans.”

[bolsai]

My ass trying to save Germany from endsieg for the 75th time:

[philblanc]

The guys fighting never knew.
The guys dying.

[Toopydroppymoopy]

1942-1943 when the Allies started to build more equipment than the axis could destroy and all hope of actually having the resources and industry to engage in a long term war was gone

[mcduck]

Hitlers genrals knew it was over when they looked up at B17s being babysat by P51 mustangs

[Galendy]

Some generals like Moltke I think it was and Hoth knew in the second month of the invasion of the Soviet Union (1941) that if they didn’t give a good push for Moscow or take the oil supply fast they couldn’t withstand the war because it would become a slow war they couldn’t afford.

[christineshotton]

It's ironic that the man who owed his position to the power of propaganda to sway public opinion completely misjudged the ability of Western and Soviet propaganda to make their respective populations forget about the fact that they were actually from diametrically opposed ideologies.

[reubensj]

Bruh late 1944? It was pretty much over by early 1943 with the defeat at Stalingrad and encirclement of the sixth army.

[avokka]

Capitalists, communists, did the hokey pokey and it went like this

[eddesa]

Well he was correct about the coalition collapsing but he miscalculated the timing. The Socialists waited until after the war was over before they implemented their own Socialist colonialism with the Iron curtain and the cold war in Africa, Asia and LatAm.

[demnbrown]

Germany during World War II was a case of the brain head shut down but the body hasn't died yet

[vaultboyfan]

After the tank battle of Kursk. They knew.

[sulemanchaudhry]

So your saying he knew he lost but instead of resigning he tried to force a stalemate?

[sciencetechnology]

War is not lost while reds don't occupied Helsinki 😂

[isimperialist]

The second Hitler thought he could won ww2 was when the war was lost.