Che Guevara: Homophobic Racist? Response to Steven Crowder & PragerU | BadEmpanada

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Che Guevara stands accused of many crimes. Let's see how the evidence holds up - again.

Sources cited:
Diarios de Motocicleta (The Motorcycle Diaries), Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life by Jon Lee Anderson
Congo Diary, Che Guevara
Peace: A History of Movements and Ideas, David Cortright

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Crowder: "Che was extremely homophobic. But, despite that, he was a very bad dude."

AprilTee
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"The problem with quotes found on the internet is that they are often not true."
-Abraham Linconl

suezuccati
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I also saw a documentary once about Che, and they also claimed that Che was racist to Bolivians. But only guy that confirmed them, was literally the guy that snitched him to the CIA. What a reliable source...

thimovijfschaft
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nicolas marquez calling someone an homophobic is like the pope accusing someone of being a catholic

matiasarielseoane
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So wait.... They only homophobic quote from him is one where he says he likes a gay man? And was upset that he got beat up?

Yeah he wasn't a gay rights activist or much of an ally. But he wasn't any more homophobic then literally everybody at the time. I've seen YouTube videos about gay people in sitcoms and this would fit right in with the stuff that was very progressive for it's time that we'd now feel like wasn't very much at all. If the sitcom man who's learning that someone he likes is gay and is willing to look past that.

sophiathekitty
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South African here. Did not know Ché opposed apartheid. Thanks for giving me more reasons to like him.

nataschavisser
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You know, it’s pretty funny to compare their reactions to che guevara saying one homophobic thing to their reactions whenever someone points out, for example, that the founders of the US owned slaves. They seem pretty okay with people celebrating them.

yojelle
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"Che Goovera" - Stephen Crowder, 2019

horricule
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Didn't Fidel Castro admit that he "failed gay Cubans" later in his life?

ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes
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Steven crowder saying Che is racist based off of a diary entry from when he was a younger guy is legit just the old fashioned version of cancelling someone for a 10 year old tweet before they matured into the person they are today which I’m CERTAIN he would despise

loganburchfield
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How can Crowder be wrong straight off the bat by thinking Che Guevara was a leader of a country.

rust
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che guevara stole my gay horses and demolished my gay house.

kerycktotebag
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Liberals short circuit when you have a nuanced view of Cuba. "Yes, Castro and Che were far from perfect. But compare Cuba to America's client states in the Caribbean like the Dominican Republic. At the very least, Cuba provides healthcare and education to its people." You'll be met with scorn for this line of thinking. I wish libs were able to separate the wheat from the chaff AND assess the vicious role of capital in the authoritarian turn of many self-styled socialist states.

OPRAHRULZ
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Stephen Crowder calling Che Guevara a homophobe is so funny to me

reitheist
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In the U.K homosexual men were chemically castrated. A famous case of this was Alan Turing, the man who decoded the Enigma machine

Madridapa
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The quote doesn't even say that he's a pervert for being gay, just that he's a pervert. I know many LGBTQ+ *individuals* who can be described as perverts, and I'm a member of the community lol.

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I actually have to assume that much of this desire to paint Guevara this way (at least by the likes of Crowder and Dennis Prager) is a deflection. "You can't criticize us for our racism and homophobia if one of yours was one too". I genuinely believe that's about where their own moral compasses are. It's not wrong if the other guy does it too.

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Thing is, I'm queer myself, and even that part that Che wrote didn't come off as *necessarily* homophobic to me. It could be, but it also came with the additional information that they knew this guy. They also describe him as a drunkard, a lot of drunkards can be lecherous due to their lack of inhibition which will sometimes lead to harassment. I'm not defending any homophobic sentiment here, but to me it sounded like Che could've said he's a pervert regardless of being gay. Also the ''yell and insult people'' part kinda indicates this as well. If Che had said other things to suggest a prejudice towards gay people then maybe that would give a more damning context. But if this is indeed the only thing to show Che as homophobic, then I'd say it's pretty weak.

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The more I learn about Cuba, the more I realize that it is really fucking cool.

Odinsday
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Yet they love the founding fathers who owned slaves. The conservative mind is an interesting place.

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