Flat Earth Fails - Impossible Equinox

Here's why equinox observations of sunrise directly in the east and sunset directly in the west don't work on the falt earth map.

[gauss]

At the equator at equinox, the sun rises in the east, moves straight overhead at noon, and sets exactly opposite in the west. This means that if the earth were flat, the sun's path would have to be a straight line. Meanwhile the sun still follows the equator, which is a closed loop and therefore cannot be straight.

[Matt-]

What? Angles of East and West do not change by perspective. No matter where on earth you are due east is always due east... it's not some arbitrary point... It's a direction.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by dwelling on the "azumoooth" changing with individual location, but you definitely danced around that one. Just to clarify some of that strange word salad you did. azimuth is the angular measurement of a location from north to south using celestial objects..
Riddle me this; how, if the sun is local, does EVERYONE (on every single latitude) on earth see the sun rise due east on the equinox? From Alaska to Patagonia. Tokyo to Melbourne. All due east.
You used one location. Try two simultaneously. Try 12. Because the globe model can try over 8 billion individual perspective And ALWAYS be 100% correct.
It's also hilarious that you are literally using software based on the globe model to dispell the globe model. That's akin to using a lit match to put out a fire.

[Matt-]

At 7:51... You use straight lines on a map that's a 2 dimensional representation of a 3 dimensional earth... Try bending those lines to conform with the latitudes... Bent... Right? Note your points... now try and draw that same line on a globe...
Uh oh... It's straight... Due East to West.
Hmmmm.... No local perspective nonsense, no changed angles, no word salad. Just easily observed reality witnessed by everyone on earth.

[stevenbell]

Now show that the sun appears correct from two places at once. It's hilarious that you constantly admit that this is the projection of the real globe onto a flat surface. You also are showing that you cannot create a flat earth model that maps to the reality we see.
Well done showing how flat earth fails.

[themirlabs]

that projection is based on a globe earth. the rest of the terrain dosent shift and change as you move around

[rocketspushoffair]

I lke that you pointed out the distance between the East and West red dots. In reality, it would be about 2 feet long on a flat surface on the ground, as it is when people do shadow tracings from a stick in the ground. The globers use a line across the entire surface to try and debunk the circling Sun above, when really, you have a bunch of say two foot tracings that join to form a circle (of latitude) that matches thee circling Sun. Indeed, the line only appears straight due to its short length compared to a circle of latitude. The shadow tracing line on the ground represents part of the circumference of a circle.

Bearings work perfectly with the polar projection, you simply put a 360 degree compass anywhere on the map and point zero to north, so that east west are relative to your location with respect to the ground and thee Sun (your azimuth). But people should keep in mind that the relative positions of the land masses does not change. The beauty of the polar projection is that it is "keyed" to the sky (to the Sun).

One big reason "they" try to knock thee FE Map is because it's thee only one that works with a circling Sun, and proves a working model of the Sun and Earth. The arguments are purely mental and deceitful, such as stretching the Equinox shadow line across earth, which is nonsensical. The East west distortion on the FE Map does not affect thee layout of thee land masses relative to each other at all. However, all other distortions, as you showed, radically warp the land masses just to line them up to your position relative to thee Sun. It is great for illustrative purposes of the point you made about seeing the Equinox on flat earth, but has no practical value for navigation, only for debunking globers.

You may not be aware, BUT thee glob is made of FLAT EARTH DATA (cartesian coordinates) FORCD ONTO A BALL. The ball is a compressed version of reality (like compressing a file) so it matters which projection you use if you want thee highest accuracy when decompressing it back to thee FE Map). I'm working on a detailed video about this, I'm condensing a livestream that was over three hours, that QE did recently on GPS, that has all the details and history.

All other maps based on the glob have double the error (compared to just east west distortion of the FE Map), because the globe is already a compressed version of reality, that does not and cannot decompress into any other map like Mercator for example.

We have a map, we have a working model. The east west distortion is not a deal-breaker by any means, but an artifact of making an accurate map that includes (works perfectly with) the sky objects such as the Sun.

(EDIT: I think I'll have a beer too! 🍺)

[brianandrea]

Proof positive that a British accent doesn't automatically make you sound smarter!

[fauxpression]

In a few days, this website will change to reflect only the globe theory!

This happened with the winds-aloft map 😂

[JonBernhards]

Thanks @phuket Word very well done 👍 and overview like azimuth spot on!! But as for the ice shore wall, it's more like logic because the solar path, which is a circle from north to south doesn't reach that far south, that's why there must be an ice area around because the sun isn't there... Just logic.🌞

[JonBernhards]

he said, "at the 52 Latitude North observing the Sun and as you may understand and it was the sunrise with an azimuth 50° and then you see it set at 309°. so that means he can see it for 260 degrees in the sky so that means if you can see it for 260 degrees in the sky you can see it well behind the Globe curve" 🙂

[shimshon]

The Mercator projection distorts things, but the reason it is used for navigation is that headings can be plotted as straight lines. For this reason, Suncalc is a more honest tool than Google Earth.

[terryoneill]

I've never seen this before. Thank you!

[bjones]

water doesn't curve.Period. Sea LEVEL is level.😃

[joebar]

If the earth was really flat, cats would've pushed everything over the edge

[Sammyli]

NO Idea, I fell asleep, right, seriously, even though I only live down the road where I live everyday is like an equinox +-30 mins. Love from Surat Thani

[DOCWHOK]

You Absolutely Nailed it Nick !
The Azimuthal Anywhere IS the Proverbial Nail in the Coffin.
Its still very important to realise that the Azimuthal View is still limited to the Individuals very limited Perspective and Nowhere near "Global".

[AlexFoxthrot]

Hilarious. So... where is a reliable map of our flatearth? Why can't you people agree with each other about anything at all?

[TacMind]

Excellent video, very informative, thank you for the upload! 😊

[Immortalsouls]

Great video.. great explanations and diagrams!

[riskypoodles]

Wherever you are your sky has the sunrise between about 60° and 120° and therefore halfway through it'll hit 90°, twice a year...