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MSI GT76 Review! HIDevolution Makes it Right!
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5Ghz 9900k and 200w RTX 2080.....come on in!
-If you really want one of these with this spec, Liquid Metal is really the only way to go. You'll retain your warranty and have a legendary laptop. Without it I can only recommend the 9700k and RTX 2070. That 2070 is the 115w version. It's a pretty compelling spec actually considering how cool it could potentially run ;)
-Battery life. The power limits are locked in the bios at this time but then can be brought down (not up) with ThrottleStop. Setup a profile to run on battery and limit PL1 to 25w and Pl2 to 15w. Have all 16 threads boost around 1600mhz. Do not run MSI Afterburner on battery as it'll constantly ping the dedicated GPU. Start with these tweaks and disable what you don't need for your own personal unplugged time. Doing this gave me an additional 60 minutes unplugged.
-Two Power Supplies are connected with a rubber grommet and into the physical dongle. It's not possible to run the GT76 with 1 PSU. We're not quite there yet. Many of us on the forums have contact a company that has the capability to make a single large PSU for laptops. They have the PSU but not the proprietary connection. Let's see what happens in the future.
-This is not as large as it seems and I hope this review revealed this. I've had 17" desktop replacements and this felt smaller thanks to the new design.
-BIOS is in its infancy. HIDevolution and MSI both know this. 1.03 was far better overall as 1.06 wasn't sleep stable and often would need powered down to work correctly. This was left out as it'll get fixed and this information in the video would be irrelevant. This channel is a provided service so these details are placed in the description to better serve the community.
-The Acoustic tuning was AWESOME! But please understand that Liquid Metal really made this happen like you saw in this video. You can do this same thing without Dragon Center in about 80% of the titles I tested. It actually runs quieter and as a result the GPU fan was eventually triggered in 20% of the titles. So the Dragon Center combined with the Liquid Metal provided consistent Acoustic Tuning noise and Performance.
-Soldered GPU and socketed CPU is a flip flop from the previous Titan laptops from MSI. MXM GPU's are really hard to get and extremely expensive. Stephen has a MXM 1080 and to get a 2080 into it is over $1200. Not an ideal solution unfortunately. Desktop CPU's on the other hand are not held for ransom.
CPU wattage settles at 150w. Temps at load here in Handbrake are already pushing the boundary even with Liquid Metal. We can take ten GT76 laptops at their peak 150w overclock limit will be different. Some will do 4.6, some 4.7 and some 4.8. Binning CPU's is an actual service provided by a few companies. It's nothing to worry about and performance out of the box with LM is amazing anyway. But, this makes quite the case for a 9700k and it's the sku i'd buy if it were my money. It's not that I wouldn't rather have the 9900k, it's because the 9700k is good enough for me and i'm not made of money.
-Overclocking to 5Ghz yields an 8% average increase to the minimum FPS. Some titles did nothing and others did a bit more. Your in-game settings affect this too. I could talk about this in a video for hours and it wouldn't matter. There's not enough depth out there to reveal how this works as it's endless. Too many games and unique in-game preferences along with updates to skew results.
Why the desktop CPU? It doesn't have to honor the limited TDP like mobile cpu's. Having 150w to work with not only smashes through Handbrake, it also feeds the GPU better maintaining a higher minimum frame-rate.
MSI has left a little on the table here without a MUX or a straight connection from the dedicated GPU to the display. There's a technical bottleneck when having to pipe the image through the iGPU first. It's the only thing that the AW51m has to standout above the GT76.
As of today I would still prefer the GT76 for superior cooling, proper fan control with its dedicated hardware button and solid software functionality. Yeah, have you seen AW Command Center on the 51m yet? Yikes!
-If you really want one of these with this spec, Liquid Metal is really the only way to go. You'll retain your warranty and have a legendary laptop. Without it I can only recommend the 9700k and RTX 2070. That 2070 is the 115w version. It's a pretty compelling spec actually considering how cool it could potentially run ;)
-Battery life. The power limits are locked in the bios at this time but then can be brought down (not up) with ThrottleStop. Setup a profile to run on battery and limit PL1 to 25w and Pl2 to 15w. Have all 16 threads boost around 1600mhz. Do not run MSI Afterburner on battery as it'll constantly ping the dedicated GPU. Start with these tweaks and disable what you don't need for your own personal unplugged time. Doing this gave me an additional 60 minutes unplugged.
-Two Power Supplies are connected with a rubber grommet and into the physical dongle. It's not possible to run the GT76 with 1 PSU. We're not quite there yet. Many of us on the forums have contact a company that has the capability to make a single large PSU for laptops. They have the PSU but not the proprietary connection. Let's see what happens in the future.
-This is not as large as it seems and I hope this review revealed this. I've had 17" desktop replacements and this felt smaller thanks to the new design.
-BIOS is in its infancy. HIDevolution and MSI both know this. 1.03 was far better overall as 1.06 wasn't sleep stable and often would need powered down to work correctly. This was left out as it'll get fixed and this information in the video would be irrelevant. This channel is a provided service so these details are placed in the description to better serve the community.
-The Acoustic tuning was AWESOME! But please understand that Liquid Metal really made this happen like you saw in this video. You can do this same thing without Dragon Center in about 80% of the titles I tested. It actually runs quieter and as a result the GPU fan was eventually triggered in 20% of the titles. So the Dragon Center combined with the Liquid Metal provided consistent Acoustic Tuning noise and Performance.
-Soldered GPU and socketed CPU is a flip flop from the previous Titan laptops from MSI. MXM GPU's are really hard to get and extremely expensive. Stephen has a MXM 1080 and to get a 2080 into it is over $1200. Not an ideal solution unfortunately. Desktop CPU's on the other hand are not held for ransom.
CPU wattage settles at 150w. Temps at load here in Handbrake are already pushing the boundary even with Liquid Metal. We can take ten GT76 laptops at their peak 150w overclock limit will be different. Some will do 4.6, some 4.7 and some 4.8. Binning CPU's is an actual service provided by a few companies. It's nothing to worry about and performance out of the box with LM is amazing anyway. But, this makes quite the case for a 9700k and it's the sku i'd buy if it were my money. It's not that I wouldn't rather have the 9900k, it's because the 9700k is good enough for me and i'm not made of money.
-Overclocking to 5Ghz yields an 8% average increase to the minimum FPS. Some titles did nothing and others did a bit more. Your in-game settings affect this too. I could talk about this in a video for hours and it wouldn't matter. There's not enough depth out there to reveal how this works as it's endless. Too many games and unique in-game preferences along with updates to skew results.
Why the desktop CPU? It doesn't have to honor the limited TDP like mobile cpu's. Having 150w to work with not only smashes through Handbrake, it also feeds the GPU better maintaining a higher minimum frame-rate.
MSI has left a little on the table here without a MUX or a straight connection from the dedicated GPU to the display. There's a technical bottleneck when having to pipe the image through the iGPU first. It's the only thing that the AW51m has to standout above the GT76.
As of today I would still prefer the GT76 for superior cooling, proper fan control with its dedicated hardware button and solid software functionality. Yeah, have you seen AW Command Center on the 51m yet? Yikes!
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