Hard Truths About Occultism & Mysticism

Perennialist and polytheist Georgina Rose discusses ten hard truths about occultism and mysticism.

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[donaldmcdonald]

Thanks for speaking on drugs and mental illness. Abilify and mood stabalizers did absolute wonders for my mental health and spiritual development while psychedelics were fun but wreaked havoc more often than not. I was reading Living Thelema while I was inpatient in a shitty mental facility. Reading David Shoemaker say that people need these kinds of meds to complete the Great Work changed my whole perspective. I assumed an anti psychotic would shut off my connection with the divine yet I don't think any drug I can take could do that. After I got on the right meds I started waking up before dawn and hit Liber Resh 3 times a day for 3-4 months in a row. I still can converse with my deities too, I'm just eating sleeping and functioning rather then going into a mania drivin state of spiritual psychosis and ending up hospitalized at an abusive facility. It's funny when the voices in your head tell you that you need anti-psychotics. I'm finally getting my life together and have a positive outlook on life and closer to my HGA and True Will then I ever would be if I didn't get the proper help. I think bipolar people and people with similar disorders are intelligent and can make excellent and profound mystics but they just need the proper treatment and the correct spiritual path for them.

[kengillespie]

So true. I was an atheist-turned-Thelemite and I fell into all the typical edgelord traps, indulging in the spooky trappings of the left hand path and the more dangerous rituals while rarely purifying or banishing like I should have been. Then I got my life on track, got my degree in Religious Studies and found a new love in Sufism. In my Sufi poetry class, I met my fiancée who is a devout Muslim from Afghanistan and I said my shahada and learned to pray in Arabic. I find the daily ritual of Islamic prayer and the accompanying wudu purification to be very effective without any of the spiritual hangover I used to get from voodoo or goetia. I am still a Thelemite and a Sufi, both the Qur'an and the Book of the Law sit on my altar side by side now and I have the love of my life by my side. My life is better than it has ever been, thanks largely (though not solely) to my switch to a more right hand path approach. Quitting smoking weed helped a lot too.

[josesuokas]

My personal experience with illness and mysticism is that i could finally stop taking medication for chronic severe depression(which I had for 10 years)after being a mystic for a couple of years. My levels of anxiety have also dropped probably 80%. I'm also paraplegic and it has made me more accepting of the fact of being disabled. Please don't feel like mysticism doesn't "belong to you" if you have any illness. It can actually help you with these things.

[BlessingsfromBridget]

Any Occultist that only follows one path doesn’t understand the point of the Occult - to gain knowledge. Knowledge can’t come from just one source. Study multiple sources.

[williamcooper]

All important things to consider, plus you obviously have real concern and consideration for your audience which is awesome.

[inthenebula]

No idea if you read comments, but I just came across your channel today and wanted to say thanks, I've been struggling with my path over the last few months and feeling totally lost. I was engaging mainly with darker magik but not doing really anything to counteract it, I thought because nothing obviously bad was happening that it wasn't a problem. But then I watched some of your videos and you explained things in such a way where it made sense to me but didn't rely on the normal moral arguments people make to persuade people not to do baneful work (which irk me because they usually encourage you to be selfish but label it otherwise).

I like that you're very nuanced in your discussions but also not afraid to say what you think (something that plagues pretty much everyone else in this space). I realized just how bad things had gotten for me and now I feel like I've snapped out of the fog I was in and can see things and myself clearly. I feel rejuvenated and motivated to get back to my occult/pagan studies, as well as to start doing my old practices again. So again, thanks for the content you make, I really needed to hear what you had to say!

[BlessingsfromBridget]

I posted on Facebook recently about how daily energy work is better than spells every so often and I got a lot of hate from my esoteric friends. I’m glad you stated exactly what I was feeling.

[JohnnyL-]

Yes...very good video. I went through the whole psychedelics thing for years and become an alcoholic as a coping mechanism for the edge! I got a lot of benefits but I would not recommend it to anyone. It took years to get over the addictions. I would not interfere with another person's free will. I would avoid any kind of cult mentality that interferes with your true will. It is good to learn from others but not to follow. I get great information from all sources...with no restrictions! 😊

[kokomamado]

as an ex Muslim turned atheist I really thought it was cool at first but now after many years I can feel how being non-spiritual has affected my daily life

[pedroarroyo]

This video was absolutely necessary, i love that you get into the nitty gritty of it all, you show an all around clear picture without ever shying away from whats difficult or strange. I will always admire you deeply georgina, and you are always dripping style..

[schaefshock]

Excellent presentation. Definitely struggled with a few of these truths in my practice.

[Sucellusification]

Thanks you for the insights, I agree with them, especially with the mind-body-spirit relationship. I'm diabetic type 1, and every time my health goes down, my spiritual and mental health suffers too, so I've learned that it's very important to find a balance and boost every aspect of my holistic health.

[fasted]

I stopped watching prn for a long time and never had sleep paralyisis or fears and wanted to see if there was a relationship. It got to the point i could listen to the most scary stuff in the middle of the night and felt nothing.

Watched some, emptied and listened to Nathaniel Gillis talk about his experiences. Horrifying. Felt like there would be a knock on my door at any minute and visualized a 3 foot tall green man at the foot of my bed. Like the walls would collapse in any second.
I remember being scared like that before so inknew it would stop eventually. it was nothing special but it was interesting to see such an incredibly direct cause and effect.

It was like "hey since you like using that imagination of yours for lies of pleasure lets see what the opposite side looks like."

Was too ashamed to call Jesus and i had pretty much asked for it 😅 so i just kind of resigned myself to it.

So if you ever want to stop watching prn just listen to stories about possesion afterwards it'll scare you straight.

Noone talks like me its scary putting it out there oh well

[garycoates]

Great video, a lot of good information!
I would offer respectful helpful critique. As left hand path myself I would kinda disagree with a particular point, most people i know who are left hand path aren't personally concerned with doing baneful practice or curses, hexs, etc etc. the lhp philosophy is basically to be equal to the gods or connected to personal power so we kinda always feel protected from outside and inside spiritually. I don't really ever feel threatened or offended enough to "hex" someone. On the contrary you could say I feel like the gods or spirit has my back, like if someone is out to harm me angels or some other entity will take care of them without me even knowing sometimes. On the other had(literally) so many people who claim to be rght hand path have asked me how to curse someone or they have tried to use magick to "right a wrong". This includes binding someone or even trying to kill them with hex. A lot of rhp people seem to feel they're always in need of praying for help .
The basic idea in lhp is self deification to feel empowered, so called black magick may or may not be a part of that but to my experience most of the people i know who identify as lhp in some way would rather not waste their energy for revenge or spite.
Just sharing my experience.
Also thank you so much for the way you described "latent athiesm" I think I was describing it as resistance to spiritual ideas as a whole because of religious trauma, I think your concept is a good term for a wide group of concepts that a lot of us go through in esoteric community.

[carsonirby]

i thank you for this. Mid vid I instantly performed LBRP and meditated and it was delightful and put me in right standing with my intention and environment. Find the source, submerge in divinity. Reach for the stars and engulf yourself with that enteral flame.

[justus]

Sometimes the journey to the right hand path takes you through the left hand path first. Personally, I feel like anyone who understands who and what we really are would not stay on the 'dark' side

[roluchashron]

The 93 current has been a consistent and driving force in work & home. Examine how you drive in traffic it’s an amazing meditative exercise.

[NeonCicada]

A good teacher _will_ show you where to look *...* but _not_ what to see.

[bojackowlman]

What are those traditional shamanic cultures where revelations made on drugs weren't as well regarded as the ones that weren't?
Any sources?

[EyeSea]

Many things said here will help those who need clarification for certain trains of thought, thanks for this one!