What if Germany Became a Monarchy in 1938?

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“The dictator” that’s a new one to screw with the algorithm

ddggfcff
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It's infuriating that we've gotten to the point where you can't even say "hitler" in a history video without Youtube's insanely hypersensitive censorbot freaking out.

fruitshuit
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The way he has perfect South Sudan on the list but hasn’t done perfect Italy is low key insane

grassmania_yt
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Er, you're right that Oppenheimer wouldn't have "come back" to Germany with the bomb, because he was an American, born in NY. He was not one of the German scientists that fled "The Dictator".

Kelnx
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Germany may have lost the world wars but they got the world back by being the star of alternate history

austintheamerican
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crazy how fast this got recommended to me

Zeta-lw
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(Press view more for edit before responding thanks)
By the way, if anyone is wondering how people commented 5 hours before this was even uploaded, they most likely either A: Have a channel membership B: Have a patreon membership and watched when it was unlisted. This video has most likely actually been up for 6 hours, but only became public 12 minutes ago (as of commenting) letting patreon subs and youtube membership subs watch earlier then all us other freebies.

Edit: I realized he doesnt have a patreon, i mixed Possible History up with another similar youtube channel. Then the solution is a channel membership, the button is there which means it exists. Or he has some secret cult somewhere that gets to watch the videos early. I dont know, im just a simple history lover like yourselfs, this was all speculation but a membership of some sorts is usually what is the cause of people viewing a video before its release.

PH, if you are reading, maybe some insight? xD

Pngut
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Oppenheimer wasn’t German, but was born in the US, and was a student in Germany prior to leaving. He simply came home. There were many other Jewish refugees who left however and that would make a better example.

rebeccawinter
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I thought this was a very interesting scenario, if the Oster Conspiracy had gone ahead with the war for Czechoslovakia, and the overthrow of the entire Nazi regime and the restoration of the monarchy in Germany. The new government could effectively make peace with Great Britain and France, abandoning for the moment any idea of expansion across Europe and focusing only on rebuilding the country and its new position in Europe. Germany could reach some compromise with Poland regarding Danzig and its former territories in the East, form an alliance in Central and Eastern Europe against the Soviet Union. Effectively, Germany could create its Mitteleuropa and a slightly better position with the rest of the continent.

LT.KiraHertling
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0:33 Daladier was not president. He was Prime minister

rtixdtr
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3:40 This timeline where Hitler is killed but the nazis remain in power while WW2 is pushed back just enough for nukes to be invented would be an interesting cold war scenario. This would make the cold war be quadpolar after China begins industrialization

thetigerking
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Love how YouTube has forced us to call mustache man “the dictator.”

dragon_ninja_
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What if everything went perfect for Italy?

GigaRoman
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I am sorry but this scenario seems poorly researched concerning the Oster conspiracy, their plans, who was involved and how much support was behind it.

The Oster conspiracy had a lot of support from the German general staff at the time of the Sudenten crisis. Even amongst the common soldiers, they were not enthusastic about a war with the West. There was very little support for war in Germany overall which is why the Oster conspiracy is considered the greatest missed chance by historians on the subject.

If Hitler had declared war, his popularity would tank and the conspirators would be seen as heroes who prevented a madman from leading Germany to ruin. The guards protecting Hitler would have been no match against the army sent to arrest him.

The claim that there would be no clear leader amongst the conspirators is also suspect. The obvious leader would have been Carl Goerdeler, who was in contact with the British and a leading figure against Hitler. He had experience as a politician, was well versed in economic policy and a staunch religious and conservative man.

There is also a possibilty that Wilhelm II would return. It depends on how much power Goerdeler is given. The army wanted Wilhelm II but Goerdeler and others would consider him too controversial in the eyes of England and France.

sirnilsolav
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I disagree Japan would still do anything like the Strike South if there was no war in Europe, contrary to popular belief war with the USA was pretty controversial within the Japanese high command and even it's supporters saw it as a massive gamble. Tojo was by war the biggest pro war voice but with the western powers undistracted I can't see there being enough support in the Japanese military to go through with it. More likely they try to reach out to Germany or Italy for mediation potentially drawing in the USA or UK as well. I suspect the peace wouldn't be that harsh and seeing as Japan still controls many of the richest parts of China they'd likely be able to get token concessions in exchange for their withdraw. Most likely a tabling of the Manchuria issue and demilitarization of China's northern border, and a restoration of the concessions in Shandong Japan took over from Germany post WW1. I think the military regime likely falls to internal pressure at this point and something like the Taisho democracy is restored but still with heavy military influence, as the USSR becomes a bigger threat in the West's view Japan likely becomes a tentative ally and since Japan still has Korea, Taiwan and one of the worlds strongest navies, Japan while not a superpower would remain a weak great power on the world's stage.

joshuawindsor-knox
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1. I think you should do a scenario where Goering came out on top in this quiet civil war

2. What if the French government fled to Algeria during ww2?

jackakakreanxx
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Idea: what if Vietnam and Korea weren't divided

Ryanlovedits
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Lesgooo I’ve been waiting a week since the Czech video 🎉🎉🎉

captainboi
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This reminds me of another cool scenario idea: What if everything went perfect for the Freikorps ? It would definitely be similar, but different in quite a few ways.

thenamesianna
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My god I remember watching the Czechoslovakia vid and thinking “but what about the coup?”

Bro, this is awesome

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