$32,000 Gryphon Antileon Signature Better Than Boulder $298,000 amplifiers? #boulder #gryphon

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[huyle-ijzm]

This comparison is the most hillarious one I have ever seen in the history of HiFi review to say the least...I did not want to mention the word STUPID. LOL

[Breakinlife]

Sorry but this is a stupid comparison... from an engineering standpoint the Gryphon will reduce heat quicker and more effectively with higher surface area than the Boulder... I tell you when you do great things and will tell you when you do a bone head post. This is bone head

[edsinger]

I think your comparison is ridiculous.

[craigenputtock]

Those Gryphon aluminum fins dissipate heat better.

[n.lyndley.]

Some solid engineering expertise being shared her.

All the gear, and no idea 🤐

[perfectsoundpursuit]

Yes, Jay.. But it's 10 times price.. You can buy a Home with pool..

[jiyadas]

This test is ridiculous difference construction, different material science. Next are you going to tap the outer skin of a $250 million fighter jet and tap your Boulder and say the Boulder is better constructed. Both the heat sinks have completely different construction techniques, you are better than this bud!!

[AccuphaseMan]

The gryphon survived 20 years likely without dying, your boulder didn't make it past 6 months

[SR-mldn]

Your audio collection is outstanding but the sound quality test is the most weird comparison ever seen. Looking forward to your car test next week, where you smack the car door on your Bentley and Ferrari. Properly the Bentley will win in the door smacking contest and make the Bentley the best car ever :-).

[WXSTANG]

Now I know how to test ultimate sound quality... thank you for letting me know!

[literalghost]

The sides of the Gryphon are heatsinks, so you want as many of those fins as possible, as it increases surface contact with the air and helps cooling. Being solid blocks like the boulder would just be much less efficient.

[jasonpomare]

I personally would be more than happy with either one.

[jiyadas]

Typically aluminum heatsinks have 3 types of construction being used. Extruded, cast and in the Boulder's case its machined out of a solid blocks of aluminum. Different heat transfers design and different resonant frequency this is the most un scientific way of showing quality of workmanship.

[MichaelM-tosg]

Wtf? You think running a pen over passive heat sinks is somehow defining “build quality”? 🤦‍♂️ Lmao. Has zero to do with build quality.

It’s an amp, build quality is the level of skill in soldered connections. Is it ptp wire or pcb’s? What is quality of wire. What is topology of circuit? Is there a feedback loop? What is quality of components used, both active and passive devices? Most importantly, what is the resulting sound emitted from the amp?

Boulder is a local company for me, one of a dozen local audiophile oem’s near me. I’m a big fan of supporting my local oem’s and brick& mortar vendors. They are only local oem I’ve never had in any home of ours. Not because of your perceived build quality issue, but rather the sound. That’s how I commonly choose my audio gear. 😂

If you like Boulder amps, good for you, hopefully it’s due to the sound and not your “build quality test”. I personally wouldn’t consider Boulder or Gryphon in my top 10 for amps in any system I’ve owned. I’d suggest you try some other amps, begin with a VTL. If that’s not for you, no worries. I would suggest not repeating this “test” as a measure of build quality, it frankly displays ignorance of equipment and most audiophiles likely consider it embarrassing 🤦‍♂️

[john-lihq]

I love everything about the Gryphon. It feels more organic then that copie machine.

[Coneman]

There are 2 main rules I follow in my audiophile journey; keep an open mind and some gear is definitely overpriced.

There is some logic to this video. A lack of resonance from the pen could indicate better build quality and resistance to vibrations. But it’s obviously a very crude assessment which might not be instructive at all. The price of the Boulder amp is crazy imo, and says more about wealth in our societies than quality of the product. As long as some have the money and belief, products at x price will be made.

But what I won’t say is the Boulder doesn’t sound great. It probably does. Still overpriced.

[silviosarunic]

Two different things. They have totally different heat sinks, and Gryphon has standard ribbed heat sinks that have precise calculations about its surface area and heat dissipation characteristics.
Its not “ low quality “ because of that… its peace of engineering. Every electronic engineer knows about that.
Boulder from the other side, have similar heat sinks or better to say heat radiators, as DanDagostino amplifiers have.
And that heat sink has nothing to do with build quality.
They both are master pieces of engineering.
😎

[Darkmatterme]

Quote: you can hear the difference, even on the outside” is a bit nonsense. The build has to good of cause, well better then Pass Labs anyway, for the money you spent. Standard heat sinks sound like that, thin aluminum panels sound like that. It all depends on how much money the manufacturer is willing spent on cabinet, every dollar the manufacturer spends you pay a 100 dollars maybe.

[Pepper]

The Boulder chassis and heartsinks are primarily machined from solid billet. The heatsinks on the Gryphon are extruded aluminum. The top on the Boulder is machined from billet. The Gryphon is thin sheet. The machining cost for the Boulder is thousands of dollars more because everything is machined from solid material. You're paying for the machining. I don't know what's going on inside, but the amplifier topology matters a lot more.

[oooo]

When you have lot of money but only Audiofool monkey brain.