The Three WORST Venthyr Covenant Abilities So Far - WoW Shadowlands Alpha

You've seen some of the best Covenant abilities in Shadowlands so far, how about the worst? In this series I go over 3 of the least effective abilities per Covenant, starting with the Venthyr.

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[Amandor]

Druid one is not that bad, in pve it awards your skill, at least as a balance druid I pretty like it
Especially comparing it to useless mirrors that do nothing and useless poison that does nothing
In there if you're a good player you will be able to deal a lot of damage

[jeffreyarnold]

well i guess my feral and outlaw won't be chillin with the vampires

[grennbalze]

I like the idea behind Mirrors of Torment. Its a cool idea. A target is surrounded by mirrors that reflect their own spells, right IN THEIR FACE! maybe while theyre up, melee damage is lessened because its hard for them to see or something? And the more mirros, the greater the reduction. I definitely see theyre are trying to go for more than damage with these abilities, and make them a little more interesting

[brandoncomer]

Slaughter is an ambush replacer with a deadly poison and wound poison baked in that also acts as a healing leech. I could see it being useful in PvP, but the healing leech is worthless in 95% of PvE since mobs typically aren't healing themselves.

[grennbalze]

Hoping they make Monk Ardenweald ability relate to the August Celestials being that theyre demi-gods/nature gods

[Vysceral]

Interesting how now with soulbind conduits I think mirrors of torment is actually the best option.

[RowanMorgaine]

Personally, I found the priest one to be really lack-luster because it has little use in PVE content. As a M+ and casual raider, why would I want a button that won't work in most situations, beyond the fact that I love the xmog for venthyr cloth.

[Kelbourg]

Outlaw rogue here. It seems rather weak indeed... and I want to play with Revendreth. Thats is kinda disapointing but I'm pretty they will apply some changes to make those spells more versatile.

[Crypticcord]

I like how he intentionally stopped casting abilities at max stats to prove a point XD

[dibblackbird]

Slaughter is just Ambush. It's the exact same damage as ambush so you can just remove ambush from your bar. Slaughter poison does the same damage as deadly poison.

It however doesn't also apply wound poison. It works kinda like wound poison but you heal for the 15% reduction


All in all this covenant ability is trash and offers nothing to rogue play style or rotation

[theundaunt]

The druid one is amazing, you need to go back and look at it again. As preach put it, "it's a better surrender to madness then surrender to madness."

You know what's terrible? The priest ability, go give that a deep dive

[Uko]

The paladin one seemed way worse than any of these 4 min cd for a big death and decay that doesnt have any of the utility of the kyrian covenant aoe ability one.

[Sura]

Those are more pvp, first 2 atleast and rogue's Slaughter will be more than tje best choice for arenas in Shadowlands.
Edit: also why its good for assasination; Instant wound poison effect instead of stacking + Master poisoner talent makes it stronger. The damage itself is equal to Ambush and higher than Subtlety's shadowstrike but costs 10 more energy.

[brandonspengel]

Definitely agree with the first 2, but i can't agree with the Druid one. Yes, it's punishing - but the potential for its' ramp up is astounding. We NEED more abilities like this in the game: especially in an expansion that is specifically trying to increase the ceiling for player skill.

To replace it i would put in Priest. Maybe it works on bosses...maybe it doesn't. Cast it at range? Ope, it's falling off before the mob even gets to you. Wasted 2 second cast. Do you get its benefit of 40 sanity as shadow? Maybe? Probably not. It's absolutely trash.

[Reaper]

Immo Slaughter was better than flaggelation is

[bartofii]

hmm... slaughter seems... meh when you see it as an opener. the 5 minute "buff" to your weapons though... that slaughter poison dmg might be nice. Though, honestly I was hoping all rogues would be getting poisons back as part of the unpruning.

[dreadqueenmaeve]

This rogue ability is garbage for every spec. The ability is identical to ambush in every way and the dot is identical to deadly poison. However this doesn't directly relate to wound poison as wound stacks a healing reduction. This won't reduce the healing it will just steal 15% of it for you. So its less valuable then wound and literally provides you nothing if the target isn't getting healed (most PvE situations). Huge bummer for me I really wanted to join revendreth on the rogue.

[hamsterhamster]

If I'm to be honest, I'd say the druid one is like the fourth worst venthyr ability. I definately feel like the paladin one is far worse. A large concecrate that does ok damage so long as there's only a few enemies, any more than that then the damage is minimal. And as a healer I highly doubt you'd ever want it over other covenant abilities as, like the damage, the healing is split between those in the massive area and the base healing without the split isn't the best. It has a 4 minute cooldown, the same cd as a havoc dh meta. To combat this it has a very long duration, however as large as the circle is, there aren't many situations where you'll just be standing in the space for 4 minutes. All of this, on-top of the fact that if you choose kyrian, you get a 1 min cd ability that Chuck's out 5 of a paladin ability based on the spec. This means that every ashen hallow you could instead have 20 additional avengers shields or holy shocks.

[kutyamen]

Mirror will 100% of the time do 348% Spell Power to bosses already and your solution is to make it even stronger? You have zero understanding of numbers. Oh no it is not a spell that will work on mooks, how sad that things that are barely more threatening to you than critters won't be needing the usage of a 1.5 min cooldown to kill them. IF you wanna suggest an ability doesn't do enough damage, please first actually use math with Power % of the ability you can easily find online instead of in game where it greatly depends on your current gear with no actual base line ability damage shown as a comparison.

[rimonshamon]

Need a haircut breezy🙂 .great video mate