What if The Robins Never Met Batman...

[playstation.e]

Damain looks like he's about to master all four elements while Stephanie looks like she's from another another dimension

[muhammedissa]

Alright so let me get this straight, Stephanie is a hero, Jason is a nascar driver, Tim is a video game designer, and Damien’s the Last airbender

[wabby]

You didn’t have to hit me with that Dick Grayson art right then

[bobZfish]

Damien really said “I must become the avatar.”

[Lone_Rocket]

My man kept out several key details from this comic. This is a simulation a villain put them in. These futures are what Batman thought would happen to them without him. So none of this is really official in any way. And while yes, for a moment they are all happy and successful. Later in the comic, they all fall apart in their own way.

Dick loses himself, with all the lies and lack of clear rules that are common with spy work, he becomes unable to even trust his own heart and sinks deep into depression, mania and what looks like substance abuse. They say it was the hypnosis he was using, but he knows the truth.

Spoiler eventually loses the trust of everyone because she leads the Teen Titans farther and farther away from the Justice League. Superman asks her to reel them back in and because of her mistrust of adults, she starts a fight with him over it. And the Titans lose. Badly.

Damien eventually grows tired of being a monk. He wants more than to "just be". Hes asked to leave the monestary, and he hurts his monk brothers. He then returns to the League of Assassins, more willing to follow them, than ever.

And finally, Jason is still better off, in my opinion. He stops winning races, but because his organization **always** needs money, he resorts to stealing cars in order to fund it. One day he is caught and put in jail for a very long time.

Edit 1/05/23: Tim wasn't included in the simulation. He was simply being held captive by the villain.

This comic is Robins: issue #5

[jadeurn]

"Damian would become a monk."

Nah he'd lead the League of Assassins.

[thelastlahofe]

It should be specified that these "futures" were idealistic versions of a universe without Batman that their minds made up. Their realistic lives without Batman are a bit rougher than these.

[RogueButler]

Dick gets groomed to join the court of owls, Jason either dies trying to Avenge his mother's murder or becomes a big time criminal, Tim just becomes a tech dude, I haven't read a steph comic, and Damien would be next in line for the league of Assassins

[hineraable]

I love that the others have this super complicated lives that they had to overcome, and then Tim Drake is just like "i just design videogames bro".

[seraphim]

Jason’s story without Batman seems very much what Jason would do. Adrenaline and keeping his hood heart with his actions.

[kaine]

The comic said this is what "batman thinks" would be if they never became Robins. They didn't see some alternative reality or something, this was just some simulation. They also seem to have skipped all the negatives the comic said would happen if they never became Robin.

Edit: I read the issue so I can show those negatives I said.

Stephanie Brown: I led the Titans, pushing them further and further away from the JLA, Superman asked me to reel them back in. I said adults had never been on my side and... I told superman to go to Hell. There was a fight. We lost. No one would trust me after that.

Jason Todd: I kept racing, but I stopped winning. The clinic needed money, it always needed money. So I took a side job doing what I grew up doing. I stole cars I did what I had to do. Until it put me in jail.

Damien Wayne: I tried to reach enlightenment tried but could not. I grew frustrated, I wanted more than just to be. My teachers told me to leave, I attacked my brothers. I hurt them. And, having nothing else... I returned to my Grandfather, invigorated.

Dick Grayson: And me I lost myself l. Helena said it was the hypnos but I knew It was the lies. The lack of clear rules. The inability to trust my own heart.

As Nightwing says it: We all fell. We aren't just there to catch batman before he falls. He catches us.

Edit 2: Funny thing I realised, Bruce didn't even make Damien robin, that was Dick. Damien became robin during Dick's time as batman. So you can't really put the blame on Damien being robin on Bruce since he was literally dead during that period lol

Also, in the Batman Court of Owls story it's revealed one of Nightwings grandparents was member the court, so if batman never took him in, Nightwing would have been raised an assassin for the Court, not become a spy so this comic straight up just ignores prior nightwing history.

For Damien he was literally raised by international group of terrorists, being Robin gave him a dad and siblings, he also became friends with other kid heroes like Jon Kent Superboy. I don't know how anyone can look at this and be like "Oh yea, being raised by Taila is so much better then Bruce and Alfred."

Stephanie supposedly died as Robin but she actually faked her death and went into hiding for a bit, batman apparently was aware of this but never went after her. If she never became Robin she won't have to fake her death and would have just stayed alive. Her starting a war between young heroes and adults just feel out of nowhere and I'm betting they just made it up on the spot because they couldn't think of anything else.

Edit 3: Since people keep asking. The comic didn't reveal any negatives for Tim so sorry my fellow Tim fans.

[ProtocolAbyss]

Bruh Damien looking like he needs to stop the fire lord and establish balance once again 💀

[Shn]

I'm actually surprised Jason didn't became a mass murderer to avenge his dad

[frostyamaki]

So what you saying is that batman made their life ass. Sounds about right.

[eitan]

Plot twist: Tim designed the Arkham games

[romansv]

Realistically speaking dick Grayson would join the court of owls and Damian would be the new leader for the assassins and everyone else would be either dead or struggling.

[RyanG]

This guy really skipped all the bad things that end up happening to them later on

[goose]

Damian living his best life:

Ra al ghoul looking for a new body:
*Hey*

[Wokvir]

It’s funny how quickly people ridicule Batman without reading the whole comic, if you did then you would know their lives went pretty shit later on

[iammighty]

I thought dick Grayson would have been with the court of owls cause he’s part of the courts bloodline