The 1 RULE to ESCAPING LOW ELO (Not Clickbait)

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I'm a master jungler, and yes I agree that the gap between masters - challenger is higher than bronze - masters, the few times that I've played against challenger players I was destroyed in a way that I could'nt destroy a bronze player.

JotaG
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That j4 example was definitely an eye opener for me. I’ll likely still be gold hardstyck but I appreciate y’all’s effort

KahmannMan
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11:55 you forgot to mention that no matter how much you ping, in gold or lower, there's a 90% chance that mid lane will NOT rotate

neantdistordu
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The real difference between low and high elo junglers, and it's something a lot of challenger players/coaches don't seem to realize because it's so second-nature to them, is that lower elo players are way less accurate when they're coming up with the percent chance a play will work out is. Sure, there's a lot of times where players just don't think about it, but I bet if you showed a bunch of clips like these to a random low-elo jungler and asked them what the chances are that each play would work out, he would be way off from what a challenger jungler would say for most of them. And that's if you did like what we had in this video, where you showed the clip, gave him a few seconds to think, while not having to do anything else. In a real game scenario where you're trying to collect all the info in real time and also play the game, the difference is even more pronounced.

miserepoignee
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the fact that this really isn't a clickbait is terrifying

vsczpmn
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Overall good video, 2 critiques:
--I think it undersells the amount of experience required to make these sort of judgments in-game
--I think it really hyperbolizes about how "easy" the game is below challenger

Just because the mistakes are obvious when reviewing a vod doesn't mean the game is easy.

kcStranger
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As always, the problem with jungling "the right way" is that it's often not "the right way" in the particular ELO that you are in. It's great that in Challenger or whereever people know about win conditions, about how to play the lane, about what your jungler wants to do with a certain pick and which lanes are worth ganking for and which aren't, and so on. But in lower ELO none of this matters, because when you just farm your way up when no absolutely clear chance to gank presents itself, but your opponent's jungler ganks several times then your team will absolutely mental boom and lose the game solely off of that alone.

MrReese
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Honestly, jungle is the role that dictates the most in solo que. As an ADC main, I feel like I impact so much less the map its ridiculous. They can win or lose matches singlehandedly.

matthewminogue
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No matter how you do, try or perform if you have, trolls, inting teammates or smurfs in the enemy team stomping your bad teammates there’s no way you can carry a game, Riot needs to fix the Matchmaking somehow to balance games between low, mid and high skilled players, also about their behavior history.

AVALONXIX
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I got really tired of supports feeding on bot and decided to go back to jungling recently. I had an epiphany similar to the concept you went over in this video, realizing how much gold I was throwing away by overreaching for nearly impossible ganks and giving away my position for almost no reason. I jumped four divisions in one day after correcting myself every single time I went to do this. From B4 to S5 and sitting at an 80% WR with Udyr.

leddmask
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actually really appreciate all your videos- especially this one. Thank you so much for making climbing that much more clearer

Nnjamura
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As a young kid I remember being really demotivated grinding in Runescape because the same amount of XP required to get from lvl 1-91 is the same amount of XP it takes to get from 92-99 (the old skill cap when I played). As I grow up and apparently hate myself with the hobbies I've chosen (league and golf) I couldn't ever anticipate how realistic that Runescape XP division was.

Pfuetz
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I just want to say, immediately after watching this video I went and watched one of my favourite jungle mains, he appeared to do just this. Didn’t risk fights that were very hit or miss and just farmed. Even just watched for a minute as suggested and it turned out there was an opportunity and he secured his mid laner a kill

BigManGerald
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Fantastic video. Loved the math to articulate why a bad play (gank) is bad. Good job!

dutcherism
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I've started implementing this as rammus early this season and I've climb from iron 4 to bronze 1 with a wr of about 70% without being much better mechanically, games have become soooo much easier to win, great info I'll definitely be sticking around for more info like this

achillyswilly
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"Based on mid matchup, FLY will win LCS"

jfacum
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You guys really deserve all your paid services twofold. Very inspiring and informing.
When you are jungle basically you are moving to your minions, unlike laning. So you have to consider every second of the action, see&seize the possibilities then make the right choice.

AKadir
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Great video. I have one really big critique though!
The way you calculate the lost gold. You say by spending that time not farming, they're losing gold. You are correct, however. You are *greatly* overstating how much gold they lose. Something you HAVE TO take into account when calculating the amount of gold they have the potential of losing is:
1. What they have already farmed
And most importantly
2. How long until the camps they have farmed respawn. If the Kayne there had gotten a full clear of their jungle. I actually think that initial gank on Garen wouldn't be nearly as bad. It's still a bad play because of all the other factors (revealing yourself, and the chance of it going wrong and you getting nothing/dying). But, in purely a gold standpoint, it would have been fine.

If all your camps still haven't respawned, then that time you're waiting for them to respawn (if you're not ganking, setting up vision, etc...) is also wasted time. Which... If we use your calculation for lost gold, that doesn't take into account respawn timers, it loses you so much gold! But in reality, that "Lost gold" is impossible to get, because it doesn't actually exist. There is nothing to farm at that point to get you gold.

Other than that though, I agree with all the points made in the video.

remington
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12:57 this Jarvan 100% flamed Viktor for not coming to help this play. Junglers like these seem to always think their mid lane should always forfeit all their minions for a coinflip

TwistedTeaFate
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I‘m learning Jungler and I‘m already very cautious when deciding to gank. Ends up I powerfarm with Yi or Diana and not ganking pre lvl 6, but also too rarely afrer that -> my lanes loose because I dont impact and so does the game…

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