Why you should pay attention to names in the Bible and Book of Mormon. Ep. 174

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In this episode, David Snell looks at how understanding names in scripture can often unlock additional meaning — both in the Bible and in the Book of Mormon.

Notes

— Genesis 14:18 teaches that a guy named Melchizedek was the king of a place called Salem. Hebrews 7:2 explains that Salem means Peace. It’s a detail the Book of Mormon plays on in Alma 13: 17-18, “Now this Melchizedek was a king over the land of Salem … and Melchizedek did establish peace in the land in his days; therefore he was called the prince of peace, for he was the king of Salem…”. Latter-day Saints would find this nugget fascinating. Skeptics might simply claim that Joseph Smith must have picked up on this detail from Hebrews 7:2 and purposefully incorporated it into the Book of Mormon. As is often the case, there is ambiguity and a choice to be made.

— Fun fact: David spares Nabal, but Nabal ends up dying about 10 days later nonetheless. David then marries Nabal’s widow, Abigail.

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So amazing to see the growth of this channel. You guys have truly brought me more reasons to be a follower of Christ.

npcsworld
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I enjoy these deep diving faith and beliefs.

MaestroAki
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I love the little stuff like this in the BOM.

Air_Service_yt
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My favorite character in the Book of Mormon, Zeezrom, means ‘he of silver.’ And in the Book of Mormon, he’s a wealthy lawyer that tries to bribe Amulek with a large quantity of silver.

KnuttyEntertainment
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Inserting that clip from The Office was pure genius!

DannyAGray
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One of my favorite scenes in the Book of Mormon is the opening to the book of Enos.

Basically it goes: “I’m Enos, my Father Jacob taught me about language and how to interact with God. So anyway let me tell you about how I wrestled with God all day.” Cheeky bugger.

If you don’t get it, he’s referencing how Jacob became Israel after wrestling with God.

KnuttyEntertainment
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Aside from the witness of the Spirit, these linguistic evidences are my favorite.

Empisee
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I’ve always felt like Mosiah 18:4 is suggesting that the word “mormon” means something like border of wild beasts. What do you think:

“And it came to pass that as many as did believe him did go forth to a place which was called Mormon, having received its name from the king, being in the borders of the land having been infested, by times or at seasons, by wild beasts.”

atravismoore
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Why you should pay attention to names in the Book of Mormon.
Joseph Smith claimed that he translated the BOM from ancient metalic plates written in 'reformed Egyptian.'
Below is a list of some of the names of towns and places in the general area of Palmyra where he lived.
In brackets are extremely similar names he used in his BOM.
Did Smith take these names familiar to him and alter them as a basis for book of Mormon names;?
You decide,
Antrim county ( Antum)
Omer ( Omner)
Antioch ( Antianti)
Alma ( Valley of Alma)
Ripple lake ( waters of Ripliancom)
Angola ( Angol)
Mantua ( Manti)
Kiskiminetas ( Kishkuman)
Jacobsburg ( Jacobugath)
Jordan ( Jordon)
Minoa ( Minon)
Oneioa ( Onidah)
Morin ( Moron)
Hellem ( Helem)
Lehigh county ( Lehi).
The Cumorah Islands ( Cumorah?) have a town called Moroni.
Coincidence?
The name Nephi is found in Maccabbes 1:36.
141 BOM Names were plagerized from the Bible itself.

geoffnoyes
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From the Notes section: "David spares Nabal, but Nabal ends up dying about 10 days later nonetheless. David then marries Nabal’s widow, Abigail."
Well that explains the bedroom eyes Abigail gives king David in the video clip at 1:47. 😂 Thought it was kinda weird at first, but now I see they're setting up one of those classic Biblical love stories...

life-of-taylor
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2:47 Have any non-LDS scholars found connections, or are you only covering work by Nibley, et al

mikefoxtrot
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Wouldn't Joseph had at least known that any word with the suffix-"ah" or "Ya" in Hebrew means god, hence: Amnah, Amnigaddah, Limnah, Maha, Moronihah, Nimrah, Orihah, Sariah, etc. Can you explain why Nephi's brother has a Greek name "Timothy" meaning honorable before God or "Timotheos"?

protochris
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5:50 My responses to those proposed possiblities.

(1) We can have extremely high trust and confidence scholars studying language have it right. They are dealing with a thing people are currently using. Their subject of study is still there. Whereas a flood, millions of years, thousands of undocumented years, and many other things are long gone before scholars get to the remains.

(2) If it is this is proves the next one. One lucky guess is possible by anybody about anything. But multiple lucky guesses are impossible. You would know a person who gets the lottery numbers right everytime for several months is cheating.

(3) That is what it is. The Holy Ghost has told me.

Hamann
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Ok i know in the book of Mormon some of the people have the same names between fathers and sons so my question is if anyone can tell me what is King lamoni's father's name? It doesn't say anywhere unless ive have missed it somehow somewhere

adamhawkins
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Jude v3: “Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.”
Friends, servants of Christ throughout history bled for the proclamation of the gospel - that Jesus, the Word of God made flesh, came, was sinless, died for the sins of the world, and was raised on the third day, ascended into Heaven and is soon returning - they bled for the faith once and for all delivered. They bled to impart to us this glorious gospel, that all who turn from sin and trust in Jesus alone will be saved. Friends, they did not bleed for the Book of Mormon. If you truly seek God, search the Scriptures and see if what I’m telling you is true. And this is what I am telling you. God’s Word is true and needs no improvement. And His word makes no room for that abomination called the Book of Mormon. Again, search the Word, humble yourself before the Almighty, repent of your sins, and trust in Christ alone Who is our only hope of salvation. I say this with all love and sincerity. Peace to you all and God bless.

brettgilbertson
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Of course, Adam means man. Eve means living. But you also touched on the monetary system from Alma 11. As I'm sure you're aware, the system is explained in a manner that suggests Mormon was relating the "ancient" Nephite monetary system to the monetary system of his own day (he wasn't exactly explaining it to us). In verse 18, he concludes his explanation of the monetary system by saying, "Now this is their number, according to their reckoning." But then in verse 19, he ties the ancient system he just explained (which included "shiblons") to his own system of monetary valuation (which apparently includes "antions, " a unit of measurement not mentioned or explained in the previous several verses). "Now an antion of gold is equal to three shiblons." This is exactly what a real person would do after explaining a foreign monetary system. For example, I might explain the pre-1971 British monetary system by explaining the relationship between farthings, pennies, shillings, crowns, pounds, and guineas. Then, after I concluded my explanation of the system, I might tell you that a pound is equivalent to about $1.15 USD.

talkofchrist
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Please make sure to note the scholars you are referencing are LDS. This is why it’s difficult to take any of this seriously, because most people who care about LDS history are LDS themselves.

To the young people out there: please do research inside and outside of LDS-supported channels. Compare and contrast.

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Hi, since coloreds were granted their humanity a few years before my birth, could I get Uncle Toms autograph plz, sure would be nice of you

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