Emad Mostaque: AGI, AI Agents & the Future of Work

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Timestamps:
00:00 Sponsors: Bitwise & Token2049
02:11 Intro to Raoul Pal The Journeyman w/ Emad Mostaque
02:42 AI’s Acceleration
03:53 Economic & Social Takeoff
05:00 2030 Singularity
06:09 AI as Chefs & Cooks
07:15 AI Constraints Are Gone
08:12 Energy & Compute Efficiency
09:23 AI’s Lower Bound
10:30 Local AI Models
11:31 AI Assistants & Memory
12:38 Apple’s AI Strategy
13:42 AI Model Competition
14:45 AI Benchmarks & Trends
16:28 Bias in AI Models
17:39 Cross-Pollination of AI
18:39 AI Market Influence
19:45 AI Alignment Risks
20:54 AI Sentience Debate
21:59 AI-Driven Economy
23:14 AI Market Feedback Loops
24:14 AI vs. Human Capabilities
25:23 AI & Economic Disruption
26:31 AI & Government Policy
27:32 AI in the Workforce
29:09 AI-Driven Companies
30:23 Robotics & Automation
31:31 Job Market Disruptions
32:49 Political Shifts
34:30 AI & Global Competition
35:29 Financial Markets & AI
37:10 AI in Investment Strategies
38:38 AI & Market Manipulation
40:20 Capital vs. Labor Shift
42:30 The Future of Work
44:04 AI for Regulated Industries
45:30 AI & National Strategies
47:00 Crypto & AI Integration
49:01 Universal Basic AI
50:31 AI in Healthcare & Education
52:25 Economic Shifts with AI
54:29 The Future of Money
56:04 Copyright & AI
57:47 AI-Generated Content
58:52 AI & IP Rights
1:00:56 The Economic Singularity
1:03:27 Final Thoughts
1:05:55 Outro

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00:00 Sponsors: Bitwise & Token2049
02:11 Intro to Raoul Pal The Journeyman w/ Emad Mostaque
02:42 AI’s Acceleration
03:53 Economic & Social Takeoff
05:00 2030 Singularity
06:09 AI as Chefs & Cooks
07:15 AI Constraints Are Gone
08:12 Energy & Compute Efficiency
09:23 AI’s Lower Bound
10:30 Local AI Models
11:31 AI Assistants & Memory
12:38 Apple’s AI Strategy
13:42 AI Model Competition
14:45 AI Benchmarks & Trends
16:28 Bias in AI Models
17:39 Cross-Pollination of AI
18:39 AI Market Influence
19:45 AI Alignment Risks
20:54 AI Sentience Debate
21:59 AI-Driven Economy
23:14 AI Market Feedback Loops
24:14 AI vs. Human Capabilities
25:23 AI & Economic Disruption
26:31 AI & Government Policy
27:32 AI in the Workforce
29:09 AI-Driven Companies
30:23 Robotics & Automation
31:31 Job Market Disruptions
32:49 Political Shifts
34:30 AI & Global Competition
35:29 Financial Markets & AI
37:10 AI in Investment Strategies
38:38 AI & Market Manipulation
40:20 Capital vs. Labor Shift
42:30 The Future of Work
44:04 AI for Regulated Industries
45:30 AI & National Strategies
47:00 Crypto & AI Integration
49:01 Universal Basic AI
50:31 AI in Healthcare & Education
52:25 Economic Shifts with AI
54:29 The Future of Money
56:04 Copyright & AI
57:47 AI-Generated Content
58:52 AI & IP Rights
1:00:56 The Economic Singularity
1:03:27 Final Thoughts
1:05:55 Outro

RaoulPalTJM
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this should be a mandatory listen to everyone...this guy is so smart but speaks in "english" that we can all understand. Thanks!

siddhartha---u
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So soothing to listen to Emad and Raoul....thats what we need in this space.

ArguZ
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Raoul, you stated it perfectly. We are going to witness a civilization level event. Regardless of the outcome, if you're a passionate observer of life, this is going to be educational.

stinvest
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Andrew Yang already saw this coming in 2018. Glad to see you both get there too.

joeytoribio
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This is a prime example of the risks posed by the implementation of AI. When you have the framework and planning for AI being laid out by guys who have made their livelihood from financial derivatives (translated as "have taken advantage of the system without adding any actual value to society"), they either won't or cannot see the loss of human dignity that will be the actual fruits of the AI that they hope to capitalize on. Intelligent people, but not necessarily ethical and wise.

peterpetrosino
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Always enjoy these conversations - so thoight provoking. Struggled with how ranging and fragmented it was at times though.

exoduspod
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Truly one of the most depressing & downward spiraling conversations I’ve ever heard

johni
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For the AI currency this guy basically described $TAO

Kalum
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What's the point of doing a Law degree?
AI replace lawyers

Mrmillion
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VERY enlightening. Much appreciated! 🙏✌

daredreamdo
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The moment Raoul realized he’s out of a job

Nelson-Ford
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A patent is also to check that you're not infringing on anyone else's intellectual property, before you invest loads on development, production and marketing.

Aramatic
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Really interesting conversation, thanks Raoul and Emad.

fitbrownguy
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What are the 30min courses he advised to learn at the end of video?

BeAboutIt-kw
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Absolutely brilliant interview, thank you. 🙏

IntuitiveIQ
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Qubic is all over this. Ticker is Qubic

McGruderD
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So much insight, no fluff value in this conversation.
Re: IP:
56:50 Story Protocol mainnet is live. Can it work??

themasmediachannel
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Raoul please, this every 3 months if possible 🙌🤝
What a conversation!!!

milzy
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Emad never pushes the panic button, as that's no way to solve problems. These are our challenges, this is what we could do to overcome them.

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