SMS Seydlitz - The Pivotol 4th German Battlecruiser - Key Ships Series 6, Ship 9

00:00 SMS Seydlitz - The Pivotol 4th German Battlecruiser - Key Ships Series 6, Ship 9
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22:00 Part 3
33:00 Part 4
44:00 Finale

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[ImportantNavalHistory]

Oh boy! I’ll have a Seydlitz video out later this week!

[dvpierce]

I hope people haven't been complaining about your Shameless Book Plugs. Having bought and read it, I can only say it was a solid bit of work and I'm glad you're going to be researching/writing more.

[karlvongazenberg]

42:40 In the 1915 Austro-Hungarian attack on Italy (exactly 12 hours after Italy declared war on the dual Monarchy) the A-H flagship was one of the Habsburg class - 1900ish - older battleships, because the admiral wanted to lead the fleet but also preserve the Tegethoffs and Radetzkys, which sailed back in the battleline.

[boreasreal]

one funny thing is that the german term that was used for the german battle cruisers was "Grosskreuzer", which can be translated to "large cruiser". Always good for confusing people ;)

[billgalactica]

🙋🏼‍♂️ physical book purchaser here! Have backed a couple of books by Kris of Military Aviation History and a couple of others over last couple of years.

[bjturon]

Very much enjoyed listen in on this video :D

[g.d.hamann]

Shortland: frequently when authors cite "original sources" in their footnotes rather than citing my work as their source, but they use my shorthand nomenclature instead proper forms of citation. It lets me know they used my work as a secondary source while avoiding a trip to a library. I approve of lazy so it amuses rather than bothers me while letting me know that people are reading and making use of my books! All of my books include a handy list of my abbreviations in the front.

[comentedonakeyboard]

BZ the Problem with fast Battleships in the german Navy is that they could not operate with the older, slower vessels, needed to keep up the Numbers (unless you are willing to throw away the speed Advantage). So the only way to make use of fast ships is to put them in the cruiser role.

[andrewcox]

I think there must have been a couple of British and French designers who saw those photos and thought "A submersible (battle)cruiser - what a brilliant idea!!"

[michaelcouch]

27 minutes in, comment about UK refusing to sell/delaying delivery of turbines. While it may have made sense for BRITAIN to delay things, it makes less sense for THE MANUFACTURER. Britain would get the transitory benefit of delaying the German ships, but the manufacturer (who wants future sales from the Germand AND the possibility of orders in future from other nations) gets a reputation for unreliability, which impacts sales (I believe you mentioned in another video something about the Germans being highly rated for engineering and design, but losing sales due to a reputation for unreliability).

Additionally playing games with turbines only serves to encourage Germanty to fdevelop home grown turbines. thereby introducing a new competitor and reducing your potential fture sales.

So deliberately delaying deliveries is something the manufacturer wold only do under really, really heavy pressure from HMG, due to the potential downside risk.

[KyriosMirage]

I do love me a badass battlecruiser! Wish she had a 1/700 model besides the 1/350.

[richardcutts]

You talk about the cross pollination between British and US yards, It would have been interesting if the US had commissioned 33 kt (I know the US was looking at 35kts, but that was a bit much) Battlecruiser designs from both Vickers and Armstrong just to see what an experienced designer could have done with the desired specifications.

[michaelrussell]

i do like your key ships series a bit more in depth than drachs 5 min guides i like the why when and how
always good to learn something new or make me think well done dr clarke

[richardcutts]

One advantage of the disadvantage of having a smaller shipbuilding industry is that you build tougher ships because it's easier/cheaper/ quicker to repair a damaged ship than build a new ship. At least that's how the Germans looked at it. If the British lost a ship while it was considered unfortunate, they could always build another.

[johngregory]

Great. Now I have to watch Drach destroy a model while explaining in detail the damage that led to Seydlitz being a 25, 000 ton pinata".

[johnfisher]

What do you think the short and long term consequences would be for the Imperial Navy if Seydlitz had exploded at Dogger Bank?
Would the Kaiser be even more cautious about committing his ships to any action?
And with the loss of Seydlitz the Germans would remain ignorant of their dangerous powder handling with possible fatal results if a Jutland type battle ever happened

[JokeFranic]

how long did the whole back turrets exploding bit last? How fast would those flames be spreading?Also flooding the magazines (with yourself in them) is suicide right? You just chose to save the ship since you gonna blow up anyways right?

[Nemo-vgsr]

A side question: you've mentioned that had the QE class used small boilers they may have reached 28 knots! It has always been a bit a mistery to me why the RN took so long to incorporate small boilers into their bigger ships (I think the Courageous class of "large light cruisers" were the first ones?). The usual answer is that they had higher maintenance requirements and for long deployments away I guess that reason makes sense. But is that all?

[stephenmeier]

QA.
Yes overall. though I see hunt for Gorben and Brestlow might end with a fight instead of a bombardment of the dardanels.

[jonyungk]

Much as I personally like Seydlitz and agree with Dr. Clarke's point about the fast-battleship option as a potentially better route for Germany, did no one in the German naval hierarchy consider the British use of battlecruisers for trade interdiction and consider that as grounds for building faster, lighter battle cruisers (two words). You would think, with the potential for Britain as a possible future foe, the thought of trade interdiction with something larger than submarines and converted merchantmen might have crossed someone's mind.