EEVblog #522 - Rigol DS1000Z Oscilloscope Quick Look

Dave had a very quick play with the new 4 channel Rigol DS1000Z series oscilloscope with dual channel ARB function generator on the Emona stand at the Electronex 2013 exhibition.
And meet some EEVblog viewers.
Also the DG1000Z series function generators

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[JonnyDurango]

It should be noted, $585 retail is for the DS1054Z (street price $399 as of this writing). The DS1104z is $830 street price. It should also be noted that the DS1054Z can be "hacked/upgraded" to the DS1104z for $0, meaning you can effectively get the DS1104Z for $399, plus a little elbow grease (which probably voids your warranty as well). 

[nagyizee]

I would like to see an in depth review of this scope, since I want also to purchase one.
I really like your critique style and how you find all those small hidden details which do matter for different use cases.
And thanks for preventing me purchasing the Owon :-D
Best regards, :-)

[EEVblog]

Sure, you have a 3 channels + trigger scope in that case. And you can view and capture the trigger signal as a bonus.

[JohnUsp]

7 years later and still the most popular entrance scope

[stjiu]

Thanks Dave, yea I noticed it too!!! I have been using this scope for 2 months and they have quite many things bugging me... annoying, but its relieving to know this.

[ddowlingau]

Saw this scope on the Emona stand as well. Very impressive when you consider less that $1k. 4 channels is a really nice if you want to do SPI decoding or trigger off some GPIOs while monitoring some other voltages.

[rougenaxela]

Ah darnit... the options I'm debating between have now grown to be the Agilent DSOX2012A, Rigol DS2102, and Rigol DS1104Z-S... Kind of see it respectively as: expensive/reliable vs memory-depth vs lower-quality/4-ch/wavegen

[zupnikal]

Nice. I'll have to remember this one. I wonder how Lecroy & Tektronix manage to sell their low-end stuff looking at this.

[georgesutherland]

As me being not an expert ask, don't you miss the external trigger at the 1000Z series?
Even the 1052E had it. Isn't that a feature which should be there? Or people usually can get by without that?

[tra]

They are double the price, and for good reason. You get what you pay for and I would prefer to not waste money on something that sort of meets my needs. I am looking to buy a DSO in the next few months and I am disciplined enough to save twice the money for something that will last with no regrets.

[DavidLeeMenefee]

Can you say what was the software bug you found? Thanks Thumbs up

[KX]

I've been waiting for them to do an acceptably good 4ch 100MHz scope. The DS1104B is just not worth investing in these days, but the next one up they do is the DS4014 for £2000 which is not affordable to the hobbyist.

[ivanv]

Yes folks! 9 minutes is quick by Dave's standards.

[SebastianJandt]

Did you ask them if they put a little overheating voltage regulator in those too? :D

[richfiles]

I REALLY want to go with the 2000 series over a 1000Z series, but I HAVE been considering the MSO1074Z or MSO1074Z-S (with the built in 2 channel waveform generator). I'd be doing a lot of work that involves watching the timing of digital output sequences that trigger off of analog RC circuits... Basically, I REALLY would benefit from the MSO version over the DS version of these scopes. I also find 2 channels to be very limiting, and miss the 4 channel from my old job. Between doing three phase motors and 3 hall commutation (job related), and most of my aforementioned digital/analog circuits functioning most commonly in groupings of fours (hobby related)... 4 channels is something I am REALLY set on... I see that there are NO 4 channel variants of the DS2000 or MSO2000 series, and that is a REAL bummer... It would seem that to get 4 channels, and an MSO, AND the more advanced features, it looks like I'd have to jump all the way up to an MSO4000 series, which is WAY too expensive for my budget. The 2000 is honestly too expensive, but I'd have been willing to put off a PC upgrade in my workshop in order to "force" it into my budget.

If it got me a 4 channel MSO2000, I'd be willing to forgo the integrated waveform generator as well, as I could get a stand alone unit for not THAT much more than the add on option, but yeah... It looks to me like I'm really bound to the MSO1074Z-S or MSO1104Z-S. The only difference being, do I pony up for the additional 30 MHz worth of bandwidth and make it a 100 MHz. I rarely work in anything too high in frequency... for now. I DO want to future proof myself, and it's one reason I'm HUGELY bummed there appears to be no 4 channel DS or MSO2000 series.

I'd actually be VERY interested in a comparison video between the DS or MSO1000Z and the DS or MSO2000 models, and what limitations the 1000Z has in comparison to the 2000, and what the 2000 does better.

Don't suppose there have been any rumors of a 4 channel option in the 2000 series for the future? I'd likely be saving up for a year anyway. I can dream...

[firoxlion]

Signed multimeters... Now THAT is something I like!

[EEEAmin]

hai dave why don't you make a video about agilent Vs Rigole vid

[tra]

I still think the Agilent is the better scope for the money. I would rather save the $600 and put it towards a 2000 series Agilent. I don't have money to throw around buying a scope every few years, so when I plunk down the cash for something as important as a scope, it had better be good enough to last me 10+ years without the yearning for something better.

[KX]

Most in China probably know how to design well, they just also know there's lots of profit to be had in the cheap end of the market, so they chose to design for that.

[trahim]

4 channels come standard?! Sweet jeebus.