So, where EXACTLY did the Turkic people originate?

So we’ve posted maps about Turkic peoples before, however where exactly did they originate from?

If you trace back to the very core of their ancestry, many geneticists /archaeologists/ ethnolinguists point to this general region in eastern #Mongolia as the “proto” origin point before they migrated west and North.

Interesting eh?
#History #Maps #cool #info

[ada]

Turkic peoples still live in Mongolia and Siberia today and we can still communicate with them by speaking Turkish

[papazataklaattiranimam]

According to historians and linguists, the Proto-Turkic language originated in Central-East Asia region, [39] potentially in Mongolia or Tuva.[40][41] Initially, Proto-Turkic speakers were potentially both hunter-gatherers and farmers, but later became nomadic pastoralists.[42]

[jefferyhanderson]

The early Turks built a great nomadic empire that even threatened the Tang dynasty in the South. The Türk Khanate stretched from western Manchuria to the Caspian sea. And after their fall in mid-8th century, they split off into many smaller states. The Turks moved in to the middle & near East during the Turkish rule of the Caliphate A.K.A. the Seljuq Empire.

[iVyperion]

I am Kazakh 🇰🇿 and we are indeed Turkic, tomorrow we will form Turkic Federation, Türan Federation (🇹🇷, 🇦🇿, 🇰🇿, 🇺🇿, 🇰🇬, 🇹🇲, 🇭🇺).

[Dracopol]

The Turkic languages have a funky grammatical feature called "ergativity".

[papazataklaattiranimam]

Turkic peoples originated from Altai mountains according to most historians if not all

[papazataklaattiranimam]

Ethnogenesis of the Turkic peoples. Languages, peoples, migrations, customs. Andrey Tikhomirov, 2020 "The Turkic peoples are formed on a vast space in the Altai Mountains. In the process of development of Turkic peoples – their carriers, dialects and languages were formed, characterized by similarities – as a result of the unity of their origin and by differences, which are explained by the collapse of the common base language into dialects, and then into separate languages and groups of languages.

[LogicaetRatio-rz]

Judging from a genetic point of view depending on medieval Turkic samples, the origin was most probably Slab Grave Culture or Arzhan Culture

[TheNera]

It's hard to say when the the first Turkish nation was formed. But it's much more hard to talk about the origins of the Turks. They were in relations with the peoples from Caucasus to the Korea, Siberia to the Tibet. Latest scientific papers suggest that some of their ancestors were living in northern China 8.000 years ago.

[papazataklaattiranimam]

"As ethnographers testify, ethnically “pure” peoples do not and cannot exist. On the contrary, new peoples arise from ethnic mixes of two or more peoples, usually assimilating the best features of each.

Lezina, I. N. (1994). Slovarʹ-spravochnik ti︠u︡rkskikh-rodoplemennykh nazvaniĭ: I.N. Lezina, A.V. Superanskai︠a︡ (in Kyrgyz). INION RAN

[YoniIsrael]

from where did they get there? I mean ALL people really originate from eastern Africa, so how long do a group of people need to be in place to be considard "from that place"

[denereri]

Angara River. That's the reason today's Türkiye name the capital city Ankara probably.

[papazataklaattiranimam]

There is a person making Altaic propaganda in the comments, but scholars know that Altaic is just a sprachbund, not a language family.

[MrRrrr]

Early/original Turkic people were East asians genetically/racially and ofc in appearance (phenotype), they originated in present day east Asian countries viz west-central china/mongolia/southern siberia (altaic mountains).

Turkish (homeland of Turkic) people do have a general disagreement for the origin of Turkic people in East Asia and they believe in origin being in central Asia according to them and turkic people weren't east Asian looking according to them but that's not factually true .

It's true early & mediaeval Turkic people established great empires and confederations in central Asia and lived there for millennia/centuries but intermixing with indo Europeans population living there before them but their origin is not in central Asia but in East Asia 100%. Although many Turkish people disagree

[ebrusongultopkan]

Paul! Have ever one said how much Turkic you look? If you said that you're Turkmen, Kyrgyz, Kazakh, Uzbek or Hazar everyone would believe you 😂😂😂

[tkcem]

Turks orginate from the altay mountains. We are not mongolian. Cengiz hans mother was Turkish and 3/4 of his army were turks

[oldschoolprogressive]

if we were originated somewhere in Mongolia, why we don't have any similar basic words that was created in the period during people become nations such as sister-brother words? We have lots of basic word similarities with Hungarians, not with Mongols or other Yenisei people. The origin of Turks is Anau culture, Sintashta culture despite Westerners say it all belong to Indo-European people. If those cultural areas were home of Indo-Europeans, why we don't see the continuation of the culture in Indo-European people? Why Turks continued kurgan type graves, cavalry culture? If kurgans belong to Indo-Europeans, why we barely see them in the places where Indo-European lives most and why Turks have built such graves everywhere they lived?

Indo-European hypotesis defenders claims that DNA samples from these kurgans provide varieties of r1a haplogroup so those people can't be Turkish but ancient Chinese records say that Turks have Caucasian fenotype and they came somewhere from west of Caspian Sea.

Turks were immigrated to central asia in between 2nd and 1st millenium BC and that immigration started from Sintashta area. Turks are originated where Hungarians and other Ural people did.

[AliAbbas-tj]

Great 💪 job Turkic people, you had a great performance in the past history... I Love Turkic warriors history

[夜行者-sx]

The Turkic people are believed to have originated in today Manchuria (northeastern China). They were partially agriculturalists but adopted a nomadic life. Than they started their journey to the West. (The Turkic migration).
During and after the conquest of Central-Asia and some other places, they assimilated some of the locals (mostly Indo-Europeans/R1a).
All Neo-Siberians have origins in Northeast Asia including Korea（hg K2a/NO+C2）. They split from common ancestors from Northeast Asians before migrating to absorb Paleo-Siberians K2b/Q+R1a

Most Siberian have the N haplogroup. The people of this haplogroup came from the territory of modern China，
Haplogroup NO split to haplogroup N and haplogroup O in south China . . Haplogroup N is dominant among East Siberians .. Its closest relative is haplogroup O which is the most common male haplogroup in East Asia and Southeast Asia
It’s the haplogroup N that gives Siberia Sakha the East Asian looks.
So it is not surprising some Yakut look Asian

‘East Asian DNA’ includes haplogroups CNO+DQ . These are the same haplogroups shared with Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Mongols, Tungusic etc.
The first Turks (around 500 ce) were a mix of NOC just like the Han. Many either integrated into Chinese society or moved further west into Central Asia and eventually the Middle East JGE and East Europe R1aR1bI，
Turkish males on average carry Haplogroup J2 as their main Y-DNA. This is the indigenous Haplogroup of the Middle East where it originated. Turks are closely related to the people of the Levant, Iranians, Caucasus people and Southern Europeans.
That's why most modern Turks don’t look like Asians
The ancient Turkic people are Mongoloid. They are from a region between northern China and Manchuria. The Xinglongwa culture is often regarded as the original homeland of the proto-Turks. Genetical, linguistical and cultural evidence strongly support a northern Mongoloid origin for Turks, close to the homeland of Mongolians and Tungusic peoples.

The Tatars are a Turkic people, belonging to the Kipchak branchs. Modern Tatars have mixed with Slavic groups (Russians) but also with Iranian groups. Thus most Tatars have N and R1a

The ancestors of the Hungarians were also a mixture of East Slavs/old european(Ydna R1a I2) and Ural-Altaic/Siberian(Ydna N-M231)

The N hg has appeared various times in Eurasian history:
Xinglongwa culture> major Y-DNA: N
The ancient Finn-Uralians perhaps may represent the first wave of migrants from the east long ago (maybe 5–12kya).
The Finnish-Uralic are the result of the mixture of I (old populations of Europe) and N (Uralic)

[temirbug_han]

Proto Turks are not East Eurasian. Linguistically, it is closest to the West Eurasian Uralic and Sumerian/Elamite languages. The common word is too many.
Genetically, Medieval Turkish Göktürk Uyghur Hun DNA tests 60% West Eurasian.
Proto Turks emerged from Southern Ural Sintashta Afanasiyevo Andronovo founded their Baikal-Lena culture. Etruscan Scythian tribes, the heirs of the Andronovo culture, are proto-Turks.