Furtick v Chandler Debate

[Hris]

Spurgeon said: "If you have to give a carnival to get people to come to church, then you'll have to keep giving carnivals to keep them coming back."

[micahblessing]

When you start preaching on stuff other than scripture and the Gospel and start preaching on your own thought it becomes very dangerous.

[caslone]

Don't ever forget you need God not God needs you. It's His Church not yours. Focus on Him and not yourself.

[sunnybeach]

He's not even covering repentance in any of his sermons. Come on fam that's crazy....there's no saving in his churches without repentance. That's an easy one pastor Steven

[daniellesnyder]

This video is a prime example of why “church” as it has become in America, is no longer about the body of Christ. It’s a social event, a career choice, a three ring circus. It has COMPLETELY lost the heart of being about a relationship with God and His people. 😔🤦🏼‍♀️

[k.m.]

Furtick, " I just led my church through the N.T. in 30 days".
John Macarthur, "We just finished going through the whole N.T. after 40 yrs."
Me, "Guess which one was more in depth with the deep doctrinal truths of the holy word of God"?

[jeremybrown-HelloJayBird]

“Reformed community is not a big fan... (someone chimes in) not a big fan of anything.” I am reformed and I love this comment! 😂🤣😂

[wade_says]

Chandler is an actual preacher. Furtick is just a word of faith motivational speaker.

[catholiccrayons]

Why is Matt chandler debating the guy from Green Day?

[grskillz]

There is a dangerous disconnect, when you call the congregation, assembly, ekklesia, "The crowd", you've missed "The purpose".

[colorblindbasshead]

Isn't it funny how the world is being shaken and how "the church" isn't a building anymore? It was never meant to be! Neither were any of these men meant to be the focal point of the congregation. God is speaking to us now! Think it's time we listened to Him more than any one or more human. Just a thought. While the things of this world are shaken God's truth will remain.

[PeterVenoitjr]

“ When you compare yourselves by yourselves, you are not wise.“

Brothers and sisters, keep your eyes fixed on those walking and imitating Christ in truth, bearing the reproach outside the camp. (Hebrews 13)

May you have the boldness to testify to sin, righteousness, and the eternal judgement. Repentance and faith in Christ Jesus are the foundation, anything else is vanity.

[ehudsdagger]

The fact that the congregation is constantly referred to as a "crowd" or "audience" is pretty telling in it's own right...

[ramonpilgrim]

I weep and prayfor this generation of believers that are being led by these weak/false shepherds that refuse to teach the truth of the word of God.

[formeyousee]

You can't separate doctrine from evangelism!
2 Timothy 4:3-5
3 For the time will come when they will not listen to the SOUND DOCTRINE, but having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts,
4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn away to fables.
5 But you be sober in all things, suffer hardship, do the work of an EVANGELIST, and fulfill your ministry.

[donnalewis]

Did you watch the whole sermon?
Good luck with that.
I can't listen to Stephen
Furtick for 5 min.
And I have on several occasions tried, but the Holy Spirit stirs me to flee.
I love the Father.
Discernment...
A beautiful gift from God
through His Holy Spirit that does dwell inside the truly saved.

[Selahsmum]

Its tragic that half of these pastors have been disgraced out of their churches since this was made

[self_aware_brokenness]

"I lead my church through the NT in 30 days." That proves the point. What depth will you have in the texts by going through the entire new Testament in 30 days or even 30 weeks? You can't do it

[fency]

Kudos to all these men. It’s a big risk to respond to God to share the gospel through social media platform these days. You will try to choose every word wisely and still people will judge you. You will try to glorify God and show everyone His image but still it is the pastor who is being seen. A pastor’s heart needs to be checked with God always because there is a very thin line between humility and recognition.

[iansworshiphall]

Neither: the Lord called us not to build a church but to preach His gospel and declare His glory.