God, Marxism, and the Fall of the West | Ayaan Hirsi Ali | EP 457

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author and activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali. They discuss the subversion of the West, how the pursuit of truth has become the ownership of it, the corruptive nature of the oppressor/oppressed power narrative, the importance of Christian ideals, and why a push for restoration is more necessary than ever before.

This episode was recorded on June 13th, 2024

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:13) Intro
(1:55) Restoration Bulletin
(4:25) The subversion of the West: “we all feel that something is off”
(11:33) Collusion between Islamists and Neo-Marxists
(13:47) Good dialogue and cultural Christianity
(16:03) The rise of tribalism in the West, metastasizing Marxism
(33:25) Can the institutions be saved when they are so corrupted?
(42:58) De-Radicalization: Germany and Gaza
(46:56) The victim/victimizer narrative is a major problem for Jews
(51:31) How Europe failed at integration: “we are becoming like them”
(58:17) Recognizing that we are lost: spiritual bankruptcy
(1:13:03) Society is based on the principle of sacrifice
(1:18:24) Tolstoy’s Confessions: the golden chord and the abyss of despair
(1:20:13) In conversation with Dr. Richard Dawkins
(1:25:17) The surge of presentism and the need to protect the classics
(1:27:34) The miracle of the Abraham Accords and the modern Pharisees
(1:36:07) We must offer a better invitation

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[shelleyscloud]

I love this lady. She has the most beautiful combination of a fierce intellect with a gentle soul.

[hamodalbatal]

Ex-muslim here I converted to Christianity years ago, and escaped the death cult teachings in the Middle East.
I still wonder till this very day how have I ever believed in such a thing and what good have I done in my life to be blessed and saved by our Lord Jesus Christ ❤

[whitneyferoce]

The problem is that in the US we have freedom of religion and islam is considered a religion but i believe it is a political system not a religion and it destroys any country that embrasses it.

[templeandchris]

I said to my 14 year old today in the truck while playing this podcast. "Now, this is a lady who is a hero". My daughter responded, "I totally agree mom, I remember Aayan from a few years ago when you were listening to her speak." My heart grew two sizes.

[sbipeft]

Her face is glowing. Apparently, she has found the peace of her maker, the peace that surpasses all understanding.

[Shawn-nqdu]

I loved when Ayaan told Dawkins, "I choose to believe." It is a choice of the will; God giving us free-will makes it so.

[JenkinsPsych]

I was hoping for this discussion for a long time. I hope she goes on Joe Rogan next. The world needs to hear this Woman.

[liltroublemaker]

people in the West need to learn again that it is ok to say „NO“. you don't have to accept and deal with everything that is thrown in your face!

[AFringedGentianToEnnien]

I just came back from swimming with my kids, getting ice cream with them, shopping for swim suits, and getting caught in a rain storm. In short, having a great day with my kids. And I come back to find this and my heart is just a bit too full for words yet.
Dearest Dr. Peterson, I was thinking how many years you admired and venerated Ayaan and wanted to speak with her and how you finally did when you were just getting a bit of health and strength back, and how talking to her strengthened you. And now it’s so much to take in that you got to speak with her again, after her conversion.
I’ll be listening tonight after the tired and waterlogged kids are in bed. Will share thoughts then. But for now, I just wanted to leave the most enormous cherishing hugs for both Dr. Peterson and Ayaan. May God grant that I can give you both those in person one day.
With love from Ruth Anne,
Rainy Day Person ❤

[richardedgington]

Christianity that's the most fundamental part of what made western society so wonderful and free and prosperous. The abandonment of Jesus on the west has caused its collapse.

[cahlendavidson]

"after the Soviet Union fell there was no reckoning" . Wow I could listen to her all day. Thank you, Dr peterson, for letting her speak at length uninterrupted. 👍

[BDFigMom]

Thank God people like this have devoted so much to getting us out of this insane mess.

[georgehenry]

This is a critical conversation that needs to be heard.. if enough people don’t wake up chaos is inevitable

[haroldward]

My Daughters middle name is Ayaan. In her honor. She'll be 17 in few days.

[Kurdishboy]

As a Kurdish Shia man from middle east, I thank GOD for having a blessing like Ayaan on our planet. Thank both of you for your efforts for humanity💐

[bahreh.]

Wow Hirsi!!!!
Unlike most social influencers (incl., Jordan Peterson?), Hirsi offers unique contribution; she strives to redeem the moral crisis in our time by restoring the basic foundations required for establishing every truth and morality: Faith, nuclear family, the Church, the schools, the public institutions. It is so much blessing to have Ayan Hirsi

[kellybrown]

THIS woman! ❤ Absolutely love Aayan and it's always wonderful to see her! As an art historian I am so appreciative of she, and Dr. Peterson most certainly, speaking out for the Western canon and our institutions which house these works who are choosing instead to destroy their importance in the name of 'woke.'

[wakiliothniel]

Thank you Ayaan for your courage to speak out against the forces of darkness. May God bless you.

[lindahouser]

Having watched Ayana Hirsi Ali’s … conversation … with Richard Dawkins, I loved how she hugged him at the start. And at the end .

[Rojayzee]

The bravery and logic is inspiring. Praying that Ayaan’s optimism becomes reality because otherwise we are in huge trouble.