We Need To Address The Power Five Once And For All | Genshin Impact

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[catteo]

The weirdest thing about the Power 5 to me is that they all feel like they'd be High school classmates too

[SeNki]

“Vars, this is the third time you’ve shown the Power of Five in class.”

[InmateOmighty]

The entire Genshin subreddit community is literally BEGGING for Mavuika to powercreep Xiangling but that won’t be happening. Even if Mavuika is another off-field Pyro, it’ll just be a Xingqiu-Yelan moment. They’ll be amazing together

Update: Ermmm guys… we have a situation…

[mmmmmmm]

Displaying her mastery over both fire and claymores, Mavuika sends a Sacred Flame whirling around her. The Sacred Flame will move with your character for the ability's duration, dealing Pyro DMG to all opponents in its path.

[johnpellegrinoconnors]

Anyone who complains about the Power Five needs to take a step back and realize that, the alternative is having characters be churned out and replaced, and I don't know about you but with no 4-star selector in sight that sounds horrendous

[Darksage]

Its not that i think you are wrong, its the purpose of the initial units. They exist to be all purpose units. Elemental reaction providers: fischyl, xiangling, xingqiu, kaeya. They exist to provide an element. Buffers: bennet, sucrose. they exist to amplify dmg. Healer: Barbra (enough said) main DPS: Noelle, ninguang. These 2 scale respectively off of def and atk. they exist in the geo state because geo is a somewhat universal dmg type (at the start of the game) and then we have infusion. bennet (C6), chongyun.

These roles covers all the bases of the game allowing anyone who has all these characters to cover all possible roles in the game. As new units come out they have to specialize, there is no need for them to be repeats/ Yunjin speeds up atk and buffs, goro buffs def, kuki kinda does it all, yao yao would have been a 1.0 character if Dendro exist, she is basically (power 5) chevruse is the best overloaded buffer and makes it viable. Faruzan is the best possible buffer for anemo hyper carry. candace is an infusion character. I could go on but I think you get my point.

We don't need knew characters to be power 5 level, we need nothing. Its about what we want, we should stop using the same teams we have been using for years, I've been building all characters and laughing when I do 100k hits with xinyan, or doing hyper carry chongyun. Genshin is a game, not a competitive game, it is made to have fun, I do coop specifically to take a main dps Lynette into it and see peoples confusion when she hits hard. Almost anything can be very strong, but we need more specificity, not less. we don't need a character to consolidate bennet and xiangling, we need a character that buffs dmg to units affected by the effects of shatter. As crazy as this might look at first glance I think this is the way forward. MORE niche characters.

[Agedude]

The fact that they haven't been powercrept out of the meta is SO player-friendly and healthy for the game. These units are the foundation of so many accounts and it would be ridiculous to try to replace them. Hoyo has the right approach for releasing more situational units that can stand up in their own unique ways. I do think every new 4-star should have a similar level of strength as Chevreuse or Faruzan. I built Kachina because I love her but holy moly she doesn't do anything. More good 4-stars yes, better than power 5 no.

[maodii]

i dont really agree here. theres no denying the 'power five', but the only edge they have over the new ones is being so universal. new 4 stars are more specific and niche. but i think thats a GOOD thing and what they designed them as on purpose. yeah there are a few rotten apples like kaveh, but the others are just as good just more specific.

[highwaytoheaven]

I said it once, and I'll say it again: make 4 stars that "enable" certain units or playstyles that would otherwise be unusable. Chevreuse was a step in the right direction. Thanks to her, overload went to an unusable reaction to meta. Now do another Chevreuse, but for freeze, or shatter, or electrocharged, or superconduct, or crystalize.

If they just make another Bennett or Xiangling, but stronger, thats just powercreep, and I don't want powercreep to eat Genshin away like its eating HSR.

[totalvoid]

The major issue keeping 4 stars down is the effort of grinding them up. It’d be fine to play around and see what Candace can do if it didn’t take all your resin and hours of grinding to do so. Since 4 stars take as much resource to play as 5 stars a 4 star that is wildly underpowered isn’t worth the effort of using even before you have to start worrying about a creeping difficulty level.

[ZECRA]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Xiangling. I try to play Diluc. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Yoimiya. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu Tao. My Xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has Xiangling. I want to play Raiden, Childe. They both want Xiangling.

She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her The Catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull Engulfing Lightning. "I don't need this much ER, " She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs Bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Homa."

I can't pull for Homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Gouba. She says, "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.

[Exacerberus]

You're underselling Sucrose when Mualani, Arlecchino, Vape teams in general make great use of her and she is a great driver for Electro-charged, which is getting buffed in 5.2.

[TheJH]

your opinion of quite a number of 4 stars is pretty warped imo.
Candace has grown a lot in usage because with Mualani we have a forward Vape carry that Candace buffs through her NA elemental dmg bonus AND double Hydro, but her slow application means she won't steal any Vapes FROM Mualani in contrast to Furina. The fact you instantly get her roughly 30% dmg buff instead of Yelan's ramping bonus is also quite a nice bonus for slower attackers. Then on the other side we have Arlecchino for which Candace is one of the better options for AoE content considering Furina is not that great of a match with Arlecchino, because she can only be healed through her burst. Candace's issue was not necessarily her kit in itself, but the lack of team members that could make use of her, which is slowly but surely getting resolved now.

Other than those, Thoma is now often used with Kinich because he doesn't have the application issues Xiangling has with Kinich's movement.
Gaming's damage output is pretty damn good even at C0, and becomes better than Diluc at C6.
Kirara and Yaoyao are BOTH budget options for Baizhu. Yaoyao has the healing part and Kirara has the shielding part (and her shields are pretty decent tbh), as well as the fact you can use her as a burst DPS because of her ludicrous scalings.

Of course, Kaveh is actually useless, Freminet is a victim of the Physical Curse and Xinyan of the Split Scaling curse, but most newer 4 stars DO have at least one or multiple usecases somewhere where they're either preferable or roughly equal to a Power 5 or a 5 star unit.

Other than that I fully agree with you. We still need dedicated Hydro, Electro and Anemo shielders (no, Candace and Beidou do NOT count), and if they know what they're doing, they can give those kits to 4 stars and stack application and SOME kinds of buffs on top of them too.

[FlyingNinjaish]

I think this whole video is really only about Bennett. XL presists only due to the absolute void that is off-field pyro, as most teams would drop her for a less needy unit in a heartbeat.

XQ has really fallen off with both Furina and Yelan being direct competition for the off-field pyro role, Sucrose is usually worse than Kazuha in practical circumstances and now Xylophone is in sort of the same role.

Fishl is good, but I'm not sure she's really much more flexible than modern good 4*s like Cheveruse.

[zente]

2:56 now that is some baloney, Hanya, Yukong and Asta are dead in the dust, Xueyi doesn't have super break in her kit, any other 4 star dps is dead on arrival, none of the starters have even a drop of relevance, the DoT are only used since DoT was kinda forgotten about, which leaves Pela, Gallagher, Tingyun, the new March and Moze, of which only two are old units, I am certain in time even the others will be replaced by some broken 5 star, besides probably Gallagher, but them again Super break is super broken so.

[wansper]

With the coming transformative reaction buff I think we'll see an uptick in sucrose stock, with sucrose taser now with ororon probably being the new best 4 star only team

[LegacyinProgress]

Flexible ✔️
Easy to build ✔️
Can be a damage dealer✔️
Good element ✔️
Good and usable constellation ✔️

Minimum requirement for a good 4 star.(C1 Bennet is all you need to beat the game💀)

[nakanzak]

Nah u didn't cook, just because they are strong doesn't mean its bad, mihoyo just need to make sure every unit has an "optimal team" such they did to candance recently. Only concern is units like xinyan and kaveh need something done to

[heyzilla]

Vars I really love your videos but frankly I've never agreed with you on this take. I'm pretty sure you're the only genshin CC I know who even uses the term 'power five'. Out of these characters, it's really only bennett and xiangling who still maintain meta dominance, with fischl and xingqui trailing behind. Sucrose has only a couple of actually useful advantages when compared to the several other anemo supports we have, and her dominant niche in electro charged lost market share a long time ago. Xingqui's relevance has been diminishing ever since Furina was introduced after Yelan, and fischl is still only somewhat outweighing supports like kuki and yae in very specific roles. The only reason we still depend on xiangling is because we don't have a five star off field pyro support with meaningful damage and utility, and even if we never get a replacement for bennett he's been balanced out by a healthy growth in hp or EM scaling teams.

[Glast]

Bro it's time to put the "power 5" thing to rest. The only two of those characters that retain very high relevance in the meta currently are Bennett and Xiangling. Xiangling because she's really the only good off field pyro we have, and Bennett because..he's Bennett. Xingqiu, Fischl, and Sucrose, have all fallen off. Xingqiu has direct competition in Yelan and Furina, who are often used together and leaving no room for Xq. And Neuvillette and Mualani are the best dpses that cover your hydro needs without wanting anything to do with Xingqiu. Fischl's only optimal team at this point is aggravate and maybe Chevreuse teams. If you aren't playing aggravate, and you have good teams already complete, you'll find that you are usually not even using Fischl. Her flexibility is pretty much useless since she is just directly worse than the optimal option in most teams outside aggravate and Chevreuse teams. Sucrose hasn't been relevant for a long time, as she has direct competition with Kazuha, and indirect competition with Furina, and now Xilonen. She is very good in reaction based teams, but hardly anyone actually uses Sucrose over the other options since she is a drag to play.

Xingqiu, Fischl, and Sucrose are all very good characters that I would rate very highly. However, their value depends significantly on what your account has and is lacking. If your teams are already complete with their optimal slots, then you'll find these characters much less relevant than someone who is missing Neuvillette, Furina, Yelan, Kazuha, etc. It's important to update our perception of characters as our accounts and the game progress.
TLDR: The power five is inaccurate and doesn't properly represent the state of 4 stars for endgame players specifically.