Don't Buy a Horia Clone Until You Watch This.

Learn the crucial differences between the Horia Jewel Press and the Seitz Jewel Press. Whether you're a new watchmaker or even a more experienced one, you’ll learn why the Seitz is the better tool. This essential watch repair tool has more uses than most people are aware of. Until today. Enjoy
**Note: The Seitz Jewel press in the video is model 3605. The older models do not have the threads for the knurled knob on the top nor does the top of the plunger unscrew. **

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MY MICROSCOPE SET-UP

** FULL LIST OF TOOLS & SUPPLIES I USE **

[byrnejr]

Hello from Massachusetts! My father in law was a master clock maker, he graduated from Chicago watch school in 1976. His dad was also a master watch maker.
I learned a lot from my father in law he was a wealth of knowledge. I received all of his and his dads watch stuff after he passed away . I started with mantle clocks and pocket watches, it’s just a hobby for me. I really appreciate you taking the time to make videos and sharing with us. God Bless my friend

[crashandburngaming]

I am a beginner working on older pocket watches. I haveservicedabout 15 old pocket watches so far i cluding total dissasembly, cleaning and oiling.
I recently bought a huge stock ofstuff at an auction from a pro watchmaker who sadly passed.
Including a Star staking set and a perfect seitz jewellers tool with a ton of other accessories I have zero idea what they are.
And a boat load of Vintage pocket watch parts for most American pocketwatches. And bags and bags of servicable watches. With alot of Hamilton 992 parts.
I could really use vids on what the heck this seitz tool can do.
I love this hobby, but it is expensive lol.
Glad I have an awesome wife 😂

[rossjackson]

My tutor sat me down and talked to me individually about my hobby and gave me special insights into the system and methods to use. Oh, there his is. Alex Hamilton extraordinaire. And, I see one of my mentors, Mike, watches you. What more do I need to say.

[melantheoszimurri]

Another YouTuber is learning the trade from another YouTube watchmaker and he made a video bragging on the Chinese clone. This is why I chose your course. you put out information that no one else does

[boydsargeant]

Thanks Alex, I hope you don’t ever get bored of us letting you know what great videos you make! This video feels like Seitz 1, and video Seitz 2 needs to come out soon😀 with all its bells and whistles! Ta.

[EricBishard]

I've just started my journey, 9 followed your 7 tools video and got some of the other basics. I've invested a few hundred dollars in tools and bought some basic automatic and mechanical movements to practice on. These videos are great and I determined I will only buy other tools as I need them. But your videos have been great, i recommend anyone being into this to watch all his videos first and start small get a feel for it and iterate. The series of lessons are amazing and all the new videos are just a great bonus 😉

[sandorfulop]

Alex, an excellent video again!
Thanks for that. Only one addition to that. Actually I have two of Seitz press tool set. Only one of them can be turned to use as a micrometer press one. The other one simply don't have that possibility. The older one in nice wooden box however equipped with pivot size measurement gauge and pivot bent repair stuff.
So I am happy to both of them 😊

[dalepatten]

Funny you make this video when I just started looking into replacing jewels in my watches. Ive been doing this for 12 years now and I'm tired of having watches with broken jewels that I can't fix. My mentor gave me a staking set and that was a huge game changer! I have two older Seitz clones and so far they've been very useful. Looking into getting the reamers for them soon. Just replaced a staff and a hole jewel on a Buren watch and boy was it satisfying! Look forward to your tutorials!

[MyRetroWatches]

I don’t even have to watch this to know the Sietz is better but I fell for the Horia clone.
It’s been used a few times successfully but recently I needed to ream a hole and it’s impossible on the Horia.
Your estimation on the price of a Seitz is well off, at least here in the uk. I’ve been looking at them and they are all going £300-500 !! For a complete set

[RocketSailing]

I love my Seitz tool. I use it more and more instead of the stakingset. Wish sometimes feels ”crude” compared to the Seitz tool. Its a swiss armyknife to a watchmaker.

[caseback]

Thank you. I have been wondering what that part in my Seitz set was. Now I know it's the lever replacing thingy you mention at 2.11 😊

[bobwas]

Wow another excellent video!! Your presentation is crystal clear and to the point. I am enjoying every lesson of your course. looking forward to lesson 9! Thanks for all your hard work.

[johnvaluk]

Thank you Alex for the insight into the horia clone issues. I have the basic seitz kit. No add on seitz sets yet.

[AvengerAngel]

Your videos are top notch, comprehensive on every topic you cover. I have been using a vintage Seitz for 12 years now, and I like the spring loaded pushers which seem to be less likely to damage the material.

[andresgutierrez]

Hello. How are we? I'm glad to have time to say hello and thank you for sharing your knowledge with amateur trainees. Greetings from Santander (Spain).

[jika]

Hi Alex, your Seitz set seems to come with extra accessories. The ones that i see listed on eBay look complete, but only come with pushers and anvils. They don't have the reamers or the accessory that allows you to replace jewels in chatons? Where did you get those? I currently have a jewel press, Favorite brand. But it only comes with pushers and anvils . Any idea whether they make the same accessories for the Favorite so that i can build out a complete set, with reamers and chaton jewel press? Thank you for this video!

[kswaminathan]

Good video, Sir. You look a lot younger with the nice hair cut. Wish you a very long and healthy life. Please continue to educate us with your videos.

[voidifremoved]

Seittz tool, Jacot tool, staking set, winders, lathe, cleaning machine, etc these things are expensive for a hobbyist. I am at a cross roads deciding is there enough practicality, value and enjoyment to pass over the line and purchase these tools over time. For now I stick with known movements such as ETA and Seiko where parts are readily available and replace them when needed. I am also hesitant purchasing these tools until I learn in detail what each tool should come with and what they do. A lot of "sets" are missing items or different parts from different manufacturers or chipped or broken. Pity the modern day manufacturing companies are trying to re create the tools needed but are cutting corners. Just like Christmas cake there is a finite number of these old machines and tools so I suspect pricing to increase as availability and quality decrease so at least your investment will not diminish over time.

[johnhannon]

Thanks for the video Alex, it is very helpful. I have a used Seitz set on the way that is missing several pushers. It is good to know you can still get replacements.

[haping]

Thank you Alex. I love to see videos on what we can do with a Seitz and staking set. With my staking set, I can ream holes. I don't have a Seitz set yet, just because of the huge investment. And as already mentioned in the comments, I realy don't know if an old set is complete, worn out or damaged. A Chinese Horia clone is maybe a starter🤔