Trinitarians, Who Created the Universe?

[sosukeaizen]

That fake smile was preserved more than the Bible 😂

[AbdullahSarfraz-hvhg]

Bless you man, you are truly soldier ❤

[TheRockeyAllen]

So, none of the three persons can be fully creator. If one is fully creator, the others are not.

[abdelhalimchouli]

The only thing WLC can maintain is the fake smile

[imranfazal]

Brother Hijab, they won’t admit, they eat out of these BS, who would pay their bills if they admit?

[zeropulses]

If one of the three can do everything, then the other two become irrelevant. They are not needed. If they are needed then God, according to Christians is not self-sustaining, He requires others to exist and to be God. There are no two ways about it, there has to be one God, for God to be perfect and not requiring anyone or anything else.

[fahad]

Amazing point, jazak Allah khair brother Muhammad hijab.

[AnswerEasy]

This is a very nuanced and very powerful argument. Mind you, Christians on thr street might casually respond by saying that the Trinity simply can attribute the creation of the universe fully to each Person of the trinity but technically that'd mean that they believe in a form of modalism because, remember, the Trinity is not One God who has 3 roles like a Father who is also a Son to his mother and a Brother to his brother. Nope, the Trinity is three distinct Persons which means that by necessity you can't fully attribute the creation of the universe to all three persons. The only way out is to claim that only one person of the trinity created the universe which would make Christianity false on a scriptural basis because the Old Testament clearly says that God created the universe, not the Father or the Spirit.

This is a Killer argument that needs to be further shared snd simplified for the masses especially as to why it is not possible by necessity to attribute fully the creation of the universe to each person of the trinity.❤


Salam!

[othmanahmad]

If trinity each one 100 percent god so you have 300 percent god.!!! God is only one, no one beside Him. Simple.b Small kid can understand

[JoJo-lrmk]

The 3 headed dog got me choking on my laughter😂😂

[floydvenus]

John 1:1-5 The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.

Through is the key word

[IngridConnor]

A creator is designer, Engineer and Builder.

[menikinjala]

Mashallah brother, well done! The going to gym example was kinda weak though.. me n friend can pump 100kg at the same time 😂

[tanveer.oakasa]

If one created universe in full sense then there is no need of another.
If one cannot do in full sense, then He is not God.

[keekl]

His eyes are not blind. His ears are not deaf. But his heart is blind and deaf.

[JayTarsia]

I didn't think WLC performed very well in this debate, not he answered this question well. "Causal overdetermination" was his answer.

[iftikharkango]

One thing.. Creation is not like Making a thing fe a chair from wood. Rather creating wood out of nothing is creation. But it is the big bang concept, something out of nothing

[Smile-rs]

God exists beyond space and time, and the mystery of the Trinity transcends human understanding; He created matter from nothing, a concept that also lies beyond the grasp of the human mind.

[hassiemlakay]

It say that God rested on the 7th day witch is Sunday and Sunday is the 1st day of the week according to the Bible
So when God rested who took over ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[amonkey]

Who knows ? To those that find god well that’s self evident .how could you be who you are if everyone believed in god . What purpose would you have? Would there be a point to teaching? Would you, could you, teach with out god ? And what purpose would that serve? Hypothetically speaking? Peace be with you brother.