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The all new Hater from DV8 is unquestionably the strongest release ever from the brand, headlined by the all new hater core with a medium 2.53 RG, a high .054 differential and an absurdly high .024 intermediate diff. And even though the core has record numbers, this red and black Havoc HK22 hybrid cover has it beat in strength as it’s finished to 1500 solid out of the box.

With all that strength, my layout was forced into encouraging this thing to get down the lane. Early reads weren’t an option, so I went with a 5.5x4.5x2.5 2LS layout. Long pin to PAP to promote some sideroll off the spot, and a 2.5 pin to center of grip to keep it a bit more even when it hits friction. I can’t say I think it’s a perfect layout, but its at least an educated guess.

AND ON THE LANES… I think my educated guess was pretty close. I knew after the first few shots that to really do this piece justice, I would have to throw it two different times, so make sure you stick around for the back half of the video to see day 2’s results, but the short story is that this all new Hater from DV8 is just a really strong piece with a unique roll.

And that was probably my favorite part about throwing this one. Sure, it took me a few shots to find the pocket, but once the cover started to wear in a bit, I saw what the DV8 guys were trying to do and the picture became much clearer. The Hater is very responsive to friction, but the combination of the higher RG and high intermediate diff get it to stay slow and forward off the spot. It provides more of a hook set type of motion than a smooth arc, but if you can see it right, that’s a shape that’s unique in the market today and one that could be a major advantage.

On the list of downsides though, the most glaring is just how strong this piece is. Yes, it’s not made for rev dominant bowlers on house shots, I get that. But when a piece hits the top of any brands performance chart, my hope is that its usable for many styles of players, and at least fresh out of the box, I don’t really see that with the hater. I had to get left quickly and even then, if I threw it slow or missed right, I wasn’t getting 10 pins to fall over and often times I wasn’t even leaving makeable spares.

However, I think if you were to pair this Hater with a troublemaker pearl and the Hammer Effect, I think you could maximize your opportunities for success with the Hater. Both of the other options are pearl, but the huntsman core in the Effect is so big that it can be played all over the lane, and the troublemaker pearl likes to be rolled in the outside part of the lane, so the Hater would be the strongest piece of the three and once its too much, you can go to either of the other options for a better look.

Moving at our cross brand comparisons, I first took a look at the Absolute Power from Storm and here I actually see a piece that is very similar, with the biggest difference being the cover surface on the Hater. As the hater wore in, the shape got very close to this one from Storm as they both use their asymmetry to blend out the hook spot and go forward off the spot. R2S deep isn’t as strong as the Havoc Hybrid cover on the Hater, so bowlers who see a lot of oil volume may trend towards the one from DV8.

Then I took a look at the Black widow 3.0 from Hammer and here I see a shape that is stronger and smoother front to back than the Hater, and one that is more continuous through the pin deck. The Widow is way better when you can keep your angles in front of you whereas the Hater is ideally used when you have to open up, but want to control the hook spot downlane.

But with that, here’s my recommendations on types of bowlers that I think would match up well with this piece. The first is tournament bowlers. It wasn’t by accident that we saw so many of these Haters on the lanes at the masters. This piece is made for tournament play, so if you’re out bowling 8 game blocks on challenge or sport conditions, you’re very likely to enjoy having this piece in your arsenal.

The second recommendation is for the slightly speed dominant player. To see the best look out of the hater, you have to be able to put some hand in it, but if your ball speed is a little quick, and your rev rate is just a little low, the Hater will work wonders for you. It has the strength to bail out your misses outside, and it’s forward enough off the spot to keep you in the pocket on your misses inside. This ball was made for this type of bowler regardless of the conditions they’re bowling on.

00:00 - The DV8 Hater
01:04 - Bowling
03:08 - Crossbrand Comparisons
03:52 - Recommendations
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great review I see most 2 handed bowlers loving this ball

xPandora__
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Usability be damned, this ball motion is just badass! My eye saw it going down the lane like a typical snow tire, but that huge int diff gave it an extra bit of kick that most big balls just can’t achieve. I’m impressed!

primaljackal
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I was hoping you'd do a review of this one. It's def strong but looks so fun.

alpz
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Nice one Ben! The Hater may look great with a pin down layout to focus the power a bit more.

CliftonDon
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When that Hater Hybrid comes out, holla at me! 😁

russellgilbert
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Ben looks like he gets stoned before every video. Hints why I keep coming back

FromTheRuff
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How does this compare to the extreme envy? Thanks.

alexrosenblum
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Is this with the 14 pound ball with the higher RG?

ADHDWhiskey