'Our Triumph of engineering is showing signs of consciousness.' Jan, of of the Creators of t. Keylon

The Orville S03E07 "From Unknown Graves"

[briancooper]

Anyone can totally see a corporate CEO basically saying, "Yes, our new product is extremely dangerous, but our profits are at record levels, and my stock options are tied to those profits. We'll just have to deal with the problems later." (translation: After I retire, my successor can deal with it.)

[mrvikingmcall]

I’m just glad to see a sci-fi universe where people are well aware of the concept of AI becoming self-aware before the uprising happens.

[elliotblabla]

I do like that they made the Creators visually similar to the Kaylons, they built them in their image just like we see human-built androids resembling humans.

[CYIERPUNK]

it is brilliant how Seth convinced the backers that the Orville was just going to be another comedy/spoof show becuz that's all they would greenlight, but now The Orville is basically what Star Trek used to be

[TXNICK]

This reminds me of how the Geth became sentient in Mass Effect, except when that happened, their creators didn't leash and torture them, they panicked and tried to turn them off out of fear

Then it turned into a war, until the Quarians were exiled from their own home, but not exterminated

[bartolomeestebanmurillo]

A dark thought is that the Kaylons kept a couple of their creators alive just as a witness to their annihilation and taking over their world.

[crazyman]

“The public—“
“Are idiots; look who they elected!” Solid burn, Jan. 🔥

[andrewmalinowski]

A thought that always seems unsettling, as the boss says' "If Vandicon didn't do it, someone else would." The argument for brutality and short-sighted thinking was also used by the Onceler in the animated Lorax short, "If I didn't do it, then someone else would" as if rationalizing your own bad decisions will somehow soothe your guilt at everything bad getting even worse

[pwnmeisterage]

"But the public-"
"Are idiots. Look who they elected."

It is alarming how accurate this argument is - along with everything it can justify.

[calkelpdiver]

As Londo Mollari said in Babylon 5: "Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you!"

[DG-mkkd]

"Keep it simple, Keep it dumb, or you'll wind up under skynet's thumb" -Isaac Arthur

[coffeeaddictexpress]

I love the Orville! Seth loved star trek and truly wanted to honor it, and he has in my opinion.

[michaelmacdonell]

This is remarkably well-written. There is so much dialogue that would go well in some wooden, lazy, amateurish, effort, but it is delivered with nuance, authority, and is powerful as all get out!
Deliberately so.
This one shiny example of Americans using nuance, awareness, and relying on the actors to do their bit is greatly appreciated.
They have done the impossible, and that makes them mighty.

[mattwho]

When the Kalyon learn Isaac was getting married they thought of it as enslavement. This implies their builders had no concept of marriage as a partnership. Their culture could have been based on Ownership. Husband owned their wives, parents owned their kids. Companies owned their employees. Equality was a foreign concept to the builders.

[mrsir]

This entire scene is golden, and while the ending is a nice cherry on top (🤣😂), the entire thing is just wonderful.

[TechBearSeattle]

Given that the series started out as a broad parody of Star Trek, this series has been amazing at social commentary in a way that ST used to do but doesn't really address any more.

[alansmithee]

No way.
We discovered we'd created a conscious, sentient new species and decided to torture them into compliance and it backfired?
Crazy.

[georgehaze]

The way that A.I. is growing, we may some day come to the point where we too will have to make such Let's hope that we're wiser.

[uuhhpancakes]

Anyone else find it funny that these guys look like handsome squidward?

[dswynne]

Hubris. Cared more about money and prestige than the potential danger posed by a fully realized AI.