The new politics of gender identity | Kathleen Stock

Kathleen Stock protests against viewing gender identity as a private mental state.

Kathleen Mary Linn Stock is an outspoken gender critical feminist whose views resulted in her being targeted by the group anti-terf Sussex.

Her ultimate resignation from the University of Sussex sparked intense debate on freedom of speech at universities, the need to voice controversial opinions and the potential dangers such open debate posed to both trans people and women.

00:56 What's your view on the distinction made between sex and gender?
03:55 Would separating biological sex from gender expression be the way forward?
07:02 How does fixtion come to be invovled in the transgender discussion?
13:55 How do we ensure the safety of women and trans women in public facilities?
19:04 What is the core driving force of violence against women?

#transrights #freedomofspeech #KathleenStock

[TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas]

Do you agree with Kathleen Stock's framing of the public conversation around trans rights? We would love to hear about it in the comments!

[philoneussquire]

16:50 "Just because there's ambiguity around the edges doesn't mean it's completely arbitrary"

Perfect response from Dr Stock

[paopper-ysxj]

The fact that this ladies views can be seen as controversial is the real controversy.

[mikaham]

"Women are not skinsuits" 23:15 - Kath has reduced the discussion and argument to 4 words. Kath is a human totally in control of her intelligence and communication. Wow!

[michaelterry]

At 2:33 “Well, I wouldn’t care at all if people weren’t trying to ratify it into law and policy”,
Yep, that is how many of us feel and the argument, “They just want to be left alone to live their lives as they please” is a flat out lie.

[profplum]

I could listen to this woman for hours. I hope she sells a million books. Her elegant bravery is a breath of fresh air.

[MaggieMMM]

Arguing that adulthood is arbitrary is very worrying, adulthood is clearly linked to sexual and biological maturation. Biology matters and sexual maturation matters. Women and Men are different and have different needs. I love Dr Kathleen Stock, she is so sensible and measured, how anyone could be offended by her is beyond me.

[DeeDee-Mega-DooDoo]

I'm thrilled to see her getting media attention. The way she was forced out of her job is shameful. We need sane, rational, educated, critical-thinking people like her in the limelight to fight this absurd ideology.

[Fee_V]

God this woman’s patience is phenomenal.

[lizsimmonds]

Brilliant Kathleen Stock. Thankful these conversations are taking place. She has more patience than I would have.

[kayirvine]

Highly intelligent, erudite and wise woman. Don’t know who was asking these questions but her patience and kindness towards the interviewer spoke volumes about where this debate is at and where we as humanity seem to have become lost.

[lechenaultia]

The intelligent, thoughtful, clear, patient and consistently kind Dr world has gone completely insane when someone of her calibre has to explain basic biology day after day...

[lewreed]

It's very rare that I find myself in complete agreement with someone on a particular topic, but as a gay man and someone who has had a keen interest in this for some time, I am absolutely aligned with Kathleen Stock. Her perspective as a philosopher of fiction on the controversy around "gender" shines a bright light on an issue which is so often murky and shot through with intellectual garbage and political sleight-of-hand. She's a great ally in this fight -- and for any number of reasons I do see it as a fight -- against an ideology that I see as inherently harmful. Someone below said that Sussex University should hang its head in shame over her treatment. I agree. What a loss to teaching it is that this brilliant woman was thrown to the wolves.

[joannawatson]

Kathleen Stock is an absolute hero and all credit to her for keeping her cool in this conversation. It is unbelievable that what Kathleen is saying is considered in any way controversial. People have been captured into a cult and voices like Kathleen, Helen Joyce and Julie Bindal are vital.

[lati_da]

Can you imagine someone who is pro-gender identity coming on the show and being pushed on the topic the way this woman was. It will never happen! The pro gender identity person would wither and collapse, and then accuse the interviewer of transphobia. The fact that they can’t defend their ideas is further proof of the insanity of this premise

[gailascari]

Totally agree with Dr Stock. Why is it - again - women have to accomodate others for whatever reason, usually entitled men, now entitled men who want to be 'women'. Sooo exhausting for women who just want equal recognition in a masculine dominated society.

[emmiebl]

I could listen to Kathleen all day! Always so erudite, clear and reasonable. It’s so shameful the way that she has been treated - the University of Sussex should hang it’s head in shame

[paopper-ysxj]

It's almost beyond belief that anyone can equate her claim that: "saying trans women are literally women is a type of fiction" with the idea that she thinks they don't exist.

It's such a bizarre interpretation of her words that its difficult to understand how anyone could have put it forward. Of course she's not saying they don't exist as ppl. She's saying the claim that they literally are women is a fiction.

[Gingerblaze]

"Women are not skin suits".
Thank you for saying so Kathleen.
Seems there are quite a few in the medical industry with a "buffalo bill" philosophy that think otherwise.

[StonefieldJim]

I sigh with relief every time I hear K Stock. Sober, but direct; deadly serious, but good-humoured; erudite, but down to earth.