Destiny 2 Lore - Vesper's Host & The Anomaly's Undiscovered Secret Message!

Timestamps:
4:07 - Initial Vesper Station discoveries
11:14 - What is that portal thing in the skybox?
12:34 - How was the Anomaly made?
23:06 - What part did the Fallen play in creating the Anomaly?
26:03 - The Corrupted Puppeteer
30:19 - The White Captain Hive Mind
38:28 - The Vex & Qugu Hive Mind angles
42:38 - What was sent through the Anomaly
45:00 - The NEW SECRET! The Lodi Response!

[cee_ves]

clovis: wanna see me build a vex construct?
_dozens to hundreds of people die_
clovis: wanna see me do it again?

[Techhunter_Talon]

I like that there's a potential ally in Vesper Station's AI considering she isn't exactly Clovis Bray's biggest fan, and rightly so (not a large metric to pass there but still).

[gavo]

THIS is the kind of mystery Destiny has been missing for a while. A situation so alien, so complex, and so foreboding that we simply have to put together any kind of leads we have and let our imaginations run wild. Best story in any dungeon by far.

[RoseAltro]

You know a dungeon is meaty when we getting an almost hour long video for it. Bungie's narrative team deadass cooked.

[markricheard]

The people on the other side of the Anomaly…it’s the Jovians. Xurs species. Little known fact, in D1 Grimoire it’s revealed that Xur is a “Jovian” and Petra Venge often theorized that he was “the repurposed corpse of a European Colonist…but there’s no known evidence of Colonies on Europa.” (This is ironic as they gave us this second bit of info in the Beyond Light Collectors Edition Lore)

A very fascinating bit of dialogue Xur can say it “We saw the Colony fall, not knowing what we saw.”

“The Awoken didn’t have a choice. *We did.”*

“For Organic Life to survive it requires constant Adaptation.”

“We came up from the Dust, and buried into flesh for warmth and became…something new.”

“I feel that there are a great many consciousness impinging on mine.”

“There are no birds where I come from…the things that fly…are like shadows.”

To this day, we have never seen the other Jovians. They seem to have been survivors of the European Eventide Colony that the Nine struck a deal with. They survive, in exchange…their will is not their own. The Hive-Mind, collective consciousness. The Jovians, and by extension, the Nine are behind this I think. Oh and video starts at: 4:07

[LOVEMUFFIN_official]

I think it is also well worth noting that the mention of “Odysseus”, combined with the fact that the message was fundamentally a locating ping, implies that this is an entity trying to return home.

Odysseus was lost as unable to return home after the Trojan War for a decade and nearly lost his sense of self before he was through with his journey. If this Lodi character is sending a message with concepts like “Moonsick”, “Odysseus Protocol”, and a request for a location ping, it is more than possible we are looking at a lost traveler of some kind, looking for a way home. That would explain the undeniable human flavor of the message, if not the whole business of the Corrupted Puppeteer and the Eliksni hive mind.

[SynerG]

Fun fact: there are special dialogues when entering the airlock at the very beginning of the dungeon when holding these weapons specifically (as of now, at least). No Braytech weapons seemed to work: Eyes of Tomorrow, Lament etc. It just worked with these three: Outbreak Perfected, Hierachy of Needs and Final Warning.

[alejandrocarralero]

Bungo saw Byf's video complaining about not enough lore in raids and dungeons and took it personally

[cheezyguy]

I just remembered "Hello, World" is commonly known as the most basic code most programmers would learn. I really hope this is somehow connected to the message sent and the response.

[PixelleHearts]

I have a feeling that the Lodi is the space shuttle race that we see in the concept art for Apollo. The literal name of the expansion IS Greek, the destination is made of electromagnetic LODE stones. They seem to be worshipping wrecked space crafts AND seem to be channeling some different form of arc energy during their ceremony. The alternate coloration of arc energy could be their manipulation of polarity, which also ties into the entire electromagnetism of lodestones.

[jackmack]

My favorite theory on what’s on the other side is a new type of vex mind, I know it doesn’t sound that big but remember the last episode’s lore tab about how the vex network worked and think about how while the conductor is giving each vex a mind of its own, this vex mind is able to amalgamated the fallen into a hivemind of its own

[astrowolf]

Remember that concept art for codename apollo? the one with what seems to be a remnant of humanity? starting to think we got the message from them, and they might be OUTSIDE of the Sol System, which is probably why it needed a relay so massive. maybe they've been trying to send out that message ever since the traveler reawakened, sending out that wave through the galaxy. clearly they understood how to interface with the Eliskni exo frames, which means whoever sent the message and was the hivemind UNDERSTOOD the technology. it's called Codename: Frontiers after all. it leads me to believe that the "Frontier" is BEYOND the Sol System.

[scootymac]

The wires kinda remind of the wau’s stucture gel from soma. Just the way its embedded itself in the architecture gave me the chills.

[ravenstales]

been waiting with bated breath to finally get the lore on the new dungeon (the "Take off your helmets, breathe in" broadcast still makes me shiver to think about what happened there)

[trial_with_an_error]

Its very Dead Space-like and I love it. We need more derelict ghost ships and space stations in Destiny

[Silencersix]

Babe wake up Bungie’s SIVA replacement dropped

[nickjarred]

I just finished playing Dead Space just before the dungeon released, and when i went into it for the first time it felt like i just jump back into the USG Ishimura.

[WaterFlame]

This entire situation reminds me of the situation on the Glycon, several years ago. The cables and egrigore, the hivemind and the Crown of Sorrow, the Eliksni and the Scorn... Am I the only one seeing these parallels?

Edit: I have a theory, regarding the response sent through the Anomaly. This seems human at first glance... but what if it isn't? What if it's something _imitating_ a human vessel in an attempt to do... something. It reminds me of a little trick that tigers have, that being the ability to _mimic the calls of other animals._

Just a thought.

[willstuart]

I think the Odysseus protocol is the most important part of the reply. Odysseus was the famous greek figure, that came up with the idea of the Trojan horse in the Trojan war. That to me really could open a can of worms as to the nature of that protocol.

[minidargan]

i honestly feel so stupid finidng out that the response was right in front of us after talking with my friends about how disappointed i was that the response wasn't anywhere to be found