Taking an FSD HATER on his first drive!

Welcome to Metz Tech. Let's take a FSD doubter for his first drive on FSD 12.5!

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[AmphibianDev]

100% he is not a hater, he knows more about FSD that a LOT of people.

[boot]

Your friend is great, so clever and eloquent in describing the experience. Your conversation really added a lot to the drive.

[MrGiggity]

“I don’t like the ambient lighting”

Homie it’s day time

[scimastory]

31:13
This is an extremely important issue in the field of AI in general that you're describing, and I'm really glad you brought that up. It's called the black box problem. Whether the AI does the right thing or not, it's impossible to trace how it reached the conclusion it did. There's been a huge push to make AI explainable and more transparent (as in outputting not only acceleration and steering, but the reasoning that led it to make that action) since right now, we have literally no way of knowing what the algorithm is really doing. Transitioning to this completely different kind of AI architecture would require a full overhaul, and that's especially difficult since AI is used all over the place already.

[bearcubdaycare]

The camera suctioned in the middle of the view of the road is distracting. It's hard to see what the driver would see, in order to perceive how it's doing at driving.

[chrisd]

Remember when FSD is on, the right thumbwheel adjusts the max speed. if you're going to fast, or slow you can either spin it down to slow 1mph at a click, or a quick flip changes it 5mph, or close to.

[paulhamrick]

One thing to note about why FSD doesn't currently do auto-park on it's own while in FSD, Elon has said recently that currently the auto-park code is completely separate from the FSD inference model. I wouldn't doubt it if auto-park, in it's current form, isn't performed by an inference model at all. So combining that behavior with FSD might be a lot of effort. It obviously needs to be done, but it's not trivial.

[paulmeynell]

Great video and some deep questions.
I have been in cars with other people driving, some you are relaxed with and some make you nervous!.
Also driving a slow works van, getting in a fast car and seeing how close you get to a stop line before the driver brakes! It’s a surprise but their car stops much quicker than my van.

I think fsd needs to get to a point where it drives most safely but also makes the most efficient progress.
Then everyone will just have to get used to how it drives.

For example it can change lanes in places where, a human could not be sure it was safe, because it can see in 8 directions at once, no blind spots.
It can also go from accelerating to braking in one millionth of a second, lightning fast reactions.
This could lead to driving closer to the car in front, because it knows it can out react it!

And lastly if you were looking at your phone you would not even notice the driving unless something quite serious happened.

Thanks for an interesting video.

[danielmadison]

This is one of the best (if not the best) FSD driving videos I have seen. I watch all the other standard ones and cannot make it to the end without throwing my shoes at the TV. The first time I hear the words "... I would have bla bla bla" I throw a shoe and stop the video. These videos should be about evaluating Self Driving not about your driving habits. Your friend was super cool.

[andrewvercillo]

I’m so impressed with how well it drives at this point. Speed is the biggest issue this version, but that seems an easy change.

[richardmiller]

Good video. Always good to get inputs from a non-Tesla guy. Keep it up!

[drewhjava]

My biggest issues. Starts off way too damn fast, even on chill mode. I'm trying to keep my tires more than 5, 000 miles. The NHTSA stop. Dude, that thing is going to get me rear-ended. It makes people behind me think I'm brake checking them. Literally no human driver on earth stops that far back, so no one expects it. Other than that it's nearly perfect, but those two things are just holding me back.

[TheJAMF]

Using the camera for rain sensing also means that it needs light... When driving in badly/non-lit areas at night, the number of wipes drops dramatically. Also, the software needs a "water repellant applied" setting.

[genelane]

Four FSD Teslas arrive at a four-way stop at practically the same time ...

Do they?
a) sit there and play Toybox games with each other until other cars arrive
b) just sit there
c) perform for each other with their matrix headlights

d) proceed normally

[michaelfelder]

@25:21 U R spot on. Munich Germany (in the 80s) No Left turns, all right turns because they found it safer and actually made less traffic jams. Was hard to get used to, but I didnt even notice the unfamiliarity feeling after a few trips into the city.

[larrysmith]

It won't break the speed limit if you limit the speed. Like you said it is all on you self supervising.

[jayhawker]

Another great video. Love to hear the thoughts of a Tesla "wait-and-seer." 😅 Colin made a good point in the video about how predictable the car's actions become once you've ridden with FSD for a while, and that is a good thing from a passenger perspective. Massive driving style changes from iteration to iteration could be jarring.

Along those lines, at one point you mention it doesnt swerve to avoid a pothole that you would have avoided. This is a bit of a conundrum. On one hand, obviously to save our tires and suspension we would love for FSD to do some fancy maneuvering and miss them. But as a passenger, that evasive maneuver could be startling if you dont also see the same pothole and anticipate the cars quick steering input. Tough decisions to be made by the Tesla team on what level of unpredictable behavior we can stomach.

[HLF]

6:47 That’s the reason I bought FSD in 2021 (not knowing when- or if it would be implemented in my country ‘Belgium EU’), in a medical emergency it could be faster to navigate your car to a hospital ER than calling- and waiting for a ambulance to get you there the fastest way…

[pranjalable]

10:42 - Snake's tongue animation should be the official name of that animation. Kudos friend.

[ken-mbcp]

To me there’s a big difference between 12.5 and 12.5.1.