Sonic Heroes (TAS) Final Fortress Team Sonic WIP

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Here is the finished run:

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This level took me so long the first time... Interesting TAS, looks very good at this point.

Bleistivt

Wow! You're really doing it! Hey, I think you could just homing attack the poles instead of doing that tornado like move to make them start spinning around them.

This is going to be amazing, I've always dreamed about the TAS potential of this game =D

brianpso

@ReneBalow for starters, work on getting the strongest rocket accel at every point you need it. having both partners push you gives the best results. 0:30, a rocket accel would have benefitted more as it'll send you closer to the rail without wasting too much time flying to it. 1:18, I can't remember, but you could rocket accel through those lasers. In this game, there aren't too many barriers you can't get through now. I can't wait to see more from you guys in this game.

ShadowJacky

even though I hate this game, do you know how much this makes me happy to see something like this? it has always eaten me up inside knowing this game can produce really fast times, but it's just so random with everything.

do you need any help with these, or you pretty much know what to do?

ShadowJacky

Very nice!

I have one slight improvement: whenever you attack with Knuckles, it's faster to jump before hitting B so that your partners destroy the blocks for you. Otherwise its really awesome, and I'm glad to see games of this era starting to get the TAS treatment!

SegaJunkie

i was wondering when someone was going to tas this game, unless there are others i don't know about that did it already. i'm glad it was you though.

menergy

If you rocket accel towards that door during the mini-boss fight, and switch to fly formation at the last possible frame, I believe you can pass through it... I never tried that door, but it worked at the first boss fight. You can also pass through all the lasers, but I really don't know the timing. Looking forward to the finished product! :D

Shadowx

@ReneBalow Giving that I never tried speedrunning this level when I played this game, I am not 100% sure, but I know that many doors that can be opened via switch or killing the enemies, can be bypassed using a rocketaccel->flight formation technique. I know that you can get through the last wall of the final boss fight (I did it once, almost by accident almost) though so it would likely be the same.

Shadowx

@ReneBalow flying automatically is not normal. you would have to press A again to start flying with any team in that formation.

oh cool. I didn't know at least one of the doors you could fly over. now you would not have to worry about building your team blast meter at all. I can't remember if I ever tried to in this stage, but that is good to know.

ShadowJacky

^_^ Can't wait to see this finished. I love this game(>_> at ShadowJacky's opinion on it)

IAmGpro

0:01 "This must eggman's headquarters!"

Infinite_Omniverse

@xAfterDawnx Yes it's a TAS, but prelim. (Kind of).

gogoku

I was prepared for this to make a lot less sense

pluralverb

Nice TAS. I can see some things that might be improvable.

0:30-0:34 looks slow. It looks like you didn't have much speed leading into the jump.

I would've thought that fireball jump would've been faster than punching at 0:28 and 1:53. I could be wrong.

It looks like you will struggle getting another team blast fast enough from where you cut off the vid. Perhaps you could get the team blast at 0:33 in the WR vid and use it at 1:08 in your vid, then use the team blast you got at 1:08 later on?

jaggzero