Is This The End Of Team Ineos?

Ineos Grenadiers, a pro cycling team founded in 2009, has long been a dominant force in the sport, boasting several Tour de France victories. But lately, fans and experts are wondering: What’s going on at Ineos Grenadiers? The team that was once the powerhouse of pro cycling is struggling to continue to make the impact of its heyday, with 2024 marking its worst season in 15 years. Their relationship with Tom Pidcock appears strained, key staff members have either gone AWOL or left entirely, and some departing riders are calling for change. Are things really that bad for Ineos, and can they turn it around?

00:00 What’s going on at Ineos Grenadiers?
02:01 How we got here: The start of Ineos Grenadiers
05:17 What set Ineos Grenadiers apart?
06:11 Dave Brailsford’s legacy at Ineos Grenadiers
09:00 Egan Bernal Ineos Grenadiers
10:25 Why was 2024 their worst season to date?
14:51 The bar has been raised
18:42 Ineos’ power
20:37 Why has the relationship between Tom Pidcock & Ineos broken down?
22:01 Other broken relationships
24:36 Ineos Grenadiers declined interview
25:21 Why cycling needs Ineos Grenadiers
28:19 Key change: Slight loss of British roots & struggle with rider development
30:13 How will Ineos turn around?

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[marksmithWLC]

This is without doubt GCN at its best. Dan’s skill in researching and developing in-depth topics coupled with his knowledge and expertise and his peerless presentation talent makes videos like this unmatched! Thank you guys. Keep’em coming!

[kyleunwin]

Love this! Here's to hoping that independence as a channel will allow GCN to produce a lot more of these sorts of videos that have great insights and opinions rather than being forced to stay middle of the road

[keweekes]

While I love the lighthearted GCN content, the more in-depth and 'grown-up' content that Dan often presents is always fantastic quality. More of this please x

[mhgregor]

Very nice to hear Luke Rowe speaking so eloquently and lucidly; he's come a long way. I'm sure he's going to be very successful in his next steps and has the potential to become a world class DS and team manager.

[chawley]

Content like this is what will save GCN and put it at the forefront of cycling "magazines." I will willingly wade through four product-laden show episodes to get one of these in-depth, thoughtful, and timely editorial pieces. Thank you!

[aceairstream]

One name missing from this video is that of Nico Portal. His tragic and untimely loss in early 2020 was I think a more significant disruption to the equilibrium of the team’s DNA and culture than has ever been publicly acknowledged, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the graph started heading down after his death (though other factors in this video clearly played their part). Who knows if/how things would have been different had he been around as lead DS in the 2020s…?

[curran]

What an amazing video. GCN really delivering of late. First Ollie's epic ride/challenge and now this. Keep up the great work.

[danstronge]

A very slick video. So glad you've gone independent again. Dan really knows his stuff and presented that in an extremely cohesive manner. More of the same please 👍🏻

[leewilcox]

This was an excellent video Dan. I particularly appreciate the respect you showed to Sky/Ineos and the numerous people that have made that team what it is over the years. You weren't looking for tabloid-style gossip and snappy soundbites. You were trying to understand the nuances of the issues they have and actually, despite their lack of race wins, come out quite well in this video as a team that has loyally supported their riders through the tough times, Pidcock notwithstanding. Chapeau.

[jameslee-pevenhull]

I was working for Jaguar Land Rover when Team Sky received XF Estates as team cars.
Dave Brailsford gave a lecture on 'Marginal gains' applied to manufacturing industry in the Gaydon site's theatre.
I was assigned to pick him up from the visitor's car park.
Great guy.
I being a vehicle dynamicist and amateur race cyclist, we had a deep engineering conversation about drivetrains and aerodynamics.
I told him I was at the Motor Industry Research Association when Chris Boardman and Mike Burrows were testing the Lotus bike for the hour record.
Dave's eyes opened. Alas, I was confined by an 'Intelectual Property' agreement with MIRA. He slumped.
:-)

[alikabok-essx]

This is outstanding journalism.
Simply, outstanding.
Dan, and GCN hit a Grand Slam on this upload.

[dt]

One of the best videos you’ve done: well-sourced, informative, balanced, nuanced.
Your basic nightmare for other creators in the YT cycling space.

[mikeyjoe]

Excellent video Dan. Delighted to see GCN devoting skills and efforts on long form conversations such as this. Very well done!

[leightondavies]

Not your normal GCN video I must say, but still, absolute quality in its layout of the subject and really shows Dan’s understanding. I don’t know enough about the dynamics of what happens in the teams but hope they do come strong again ❤

[jamiehuntingdon]

Agree entirely on Luke Rowe's comments that it got too corporate with too many layers. This creates discord in a team. Also other teams just copy-pasted Sky/Ineos, then spent more and got better - Bora, UAE, Lidl. It was just a natural cycle of success. It can't last forever.

[matskelton]

Ineos aren’t particularly bad it’s just the other teams have upped their games so much more and are getting results. Luke Rowes comments are spot on - gotta keep aiming for improvement and not become complacent. And Pidcock needs mud not asphalt. And maybe an attitude change. Cracking vid GCN 👌

[Sement]

First video in ages I watched from begining to end without pauseing or winding forward👌

[annag]

Dan, Thank you, for you wonderful reporting on a team that has brought us so much joy, excitement and talent to cycling since their inception. We can sometimes sit there, screaming at the telly, watching our team, the riders we follow and love, wishing them to win, the Wiggo's, Cav's and G'. The team, it's vitality so intrinsic to the the individual success. Of course we want Ineos to be back the room for the riders of the future...

[robbchastain]

Excellent report, Dan, and we here in the States can relate to having a top team on the circuit. We had 7-Eleven to Motorola to Postal to Discovery, something like that and it was great fun to see a home team mix it up with those mighty Euro riders, tho' it was unfortunate that they eventually lowered themselves to athletic cheats in cleats. I hope Ineos can right the ship with its Mods and Rockers riding their bikes like motorcycles and scooters and Dan's cool Raleigh moped, the one with the chrome high-rise handlebars like a Schwinn Sting-Ray. :)

[Billy.Litespeed]

Another outstanding in-depth video from Dan Lloyd and GCN. Solid information without any bias. Chapeau !