The Goa'uld Didn't Make Their Technology (Stargate Theory)

Goa'uld technology has been under investigation by Stargate Command for years. But is it even Goa'uld technology? Taylor from Beard vs. Geek gives us a theory as to how the Goa'uld got their technology and built their ships.

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[TheUW]

It's nice to actually see theories backed up by facts. Reading the comments I think you did such a good job proving your theory that some people can't separate what is cannon and what is theory. Keep it up!

[taylorphoenix]

Jacob said himself that the Goa’uld did not develop their own technology when he first pushes back against Stargate command having reverse engineered a death glider the first time around by basically not really reverse engineering anything at all. He says “you can’t just slap a USAF sticker on the side of a death glider and call it your own. That kind of technology has to be earned.” To which Daniel Jackson pushes back and asks “isn’t it true that the Goa’uld themselves didn’t even develop the technology that they now use to dominate the galaxy? Jacob responds “yes, but they had thousands of years to figure out how to use it.”
I disagree with the theory that they had first used ancient ships left adrift in space before having acquired these pyramid type ships, because as we have seen in a few episodes even a small ancient vessel is capable of dealing a powerful devastating blow to a Goa’uld warship. Why would they use ships that are inferior to others that they have found instead of attempting to reverse engineer ancient technology to create larger ships based on it? It would be like abandoning a 21st-century aircraft carrier or battleship in favor of an old colonial sailship.
The story of Ptah having developed this line of Goa’uld technology that they now use to me falls in line with the fabricated history and mythos of the Goa’uld people themselves. No one would be impressed by a people that stole their technology from more advanced civilizations-basically trading up one for the next until they came into possession of a civilizations technology that was advanced enough to develop ships that were capable of traversing the entire galaxy in it’s entirety. So of course they would fabricate some sort of story about a “great one” once upon a time who made it all possible.
My theory is an advanced civilization of explorers came to the home world where the Goa’uld originated, with them observing this advanced civilization from the eyes of the hosts they then possessed realizing that this was a step in a better direction and so they began to infect them just as they began to infect the officers of Stargate command in one of the many foothold situations here on Earth. They wouldn’t simply go rogue with one or a handful of vessels to command as these advanced explores would eventually come looking for their tech, so it would make more sense if they infiltrated their society first with high-ranking officers or scientists, eventually getting to the political center of this advanced civilization which would then put them in a position of taking over it in it’s entirety. They could then afford to simply enslave all of the remaining inhabitants of this civilization, or choose to infect them as well. Now whether this advanced space faring civilization were the ones to develop the pyramid ships, or whether they had to trade up several times to me is the real crux of the question. Either way, they stole the tech.

[DominionChris]

I believe Goa'uld tech is Furling tech and the reason the Furlings are extinct.

[hectorae]

Wasn't it officially canonized that Ra was using an asgard host before switching to a human body?

[MasterGeekMX]

As a die Hard stargate fan I can say that I prefer a middle ground: the goa'uld in fact took over the tech of another race, but only the core components and they built the ships around them. Kinda like SGC has done with Prometheius and in some extent Daedalus-class ships.

[kingrex]

In the original movie Ra was the last of his kind. It is obvious that he wasn't the last goa'uld, so it would stand to reason that the host was the last of his kind. My theory is that this alien happened onto the Unas/Goa'uld homeworld, and got infected by a Goa'uld. The host race was dying, and the goa'uld prolonged his life, but he couldn't save the host. Ra used the ship of this alien host to travel to earth and take a human host to save himself. The Goa'uld technology was based upon this alien host races technology, but they did develop it to a point. The Ha'tak was an upgraded version of the original Ra mothership. So the gliders were also taken from this alien host race as well, as Ra's ship had glider bays. In the episode "within the serpents grasp" Teal'c states that the Ha'tak is of a new design. Heru'ur also uses the same style ship as Ra.

[Jtz]

I always assumed that the Goa'uld developed a basic understanding of gate technology while inhabiting the Unas. This could have been sped up by a species going through the gate and becoming a host.

From there I think the Goa'uld explored the galaxy, taking different hosts and technology and building it in to their existing tech.

They likely started out as a cooperative species. Working together to further their influence. Once they became the dominant species in the galaxy that's when they started wars on each other.

The Goa'uld were a pretty stagnant species. Although they craved more power and technology, they made very little advancements over the 5000 years that Earth was lost. It wasn't really until SG1 started to pose a threat that they took interest and started to work towards a somewhat common goal.

I think the design of their technology is their own. Multiple technologies adapted and customised to suit their needs.

[illmtoloko]

I am glad I found this channel that talks about stargate. I am not alone anymore.

[caseyroberts]

I have a question that might make for an interesting video, we know there was a Pegasus colony of asguard, we know that they’re the only race to use cloning for thousands of years to extend their life. We also know they’ve been looking for the problems in their cloning for 1, 000 of years. Could it be possible that the asguard where studying the bugs that the wraith are close to for their healing properties and combining their DNA in labs as we saw pop up in the Atlantis saga. Could the wraith be a failed experiment to replace the current asguard clones? We also know the wraith used cloning tech to win the war against the ancients. They also had technology that rivaled that of the ancients they had to get their start from somewhere right?

[Scimetar]

I think that the Goa'uld took over the bodies and civilization of a species that had almost forgotten their technology and were going extinct. Then Ptah got ahold of a shipyard and spent the thousands of years where he/she was wandering the cosmos reverse engineering the technology that was all around him. Not trying to rip BVG's theory apart, just trying to merge it with the Wikia origins of the Goa'uld.

[Mjr]

Im glad I found a channel that talks stargate, was a hung fan and grew up with Atlantis but it's one of the forgotten gems of scifi. Nice video

[willparks]

They took over a type of Asguards first that’s why they were dying, the cloned bodies were decaying, and needed humans to survive just like the Asguard need humans to survive genetically, and the Asguard minds were hard to control not the the simple humans

[jeremyfrerichs]

And thank you for making more Stargate videos. Like I said it's hard to find good ones on YouTube. I can't wait for the new channel, your Stargate videos always seem to get the most views:) quick suggestion/question; have you considered making some sort of 20th anniversary video for this topic?

[StylesV]

The animal people depicted in the Egyptian hieroglyphs are Jaffa with helmets that retract. Many system lords had a different animal head helmets for their Jaffa. So going with the theory that the Goa'uld didn't make their own technology, then whoever did also made those helmets, thus it wasn't literal jackal-humans but humans with a jackal helmet that collapses.

Still, it has been shown the Goa'uld could invent their own technology. Nerus for example. They may have originally stole the technology and the knowledge behind it but it doesn't rule out that they can improve upon it and make something new.

[TonksMoriarty]

I kinda like the idea that the majority of Goa'uld tech we see is from another civilisation, and the animal-like motifs could point to the Furlings...

[darkstar_-hiwp]

The Goa'uld are like the Borg of Stargate. Nothing actually belongs to them, they just assimilate. The only Goa'uld to actually create technology instead of assimilate it was Anubis, and technically he didn't create because most of what he learned was from after becoming ascended.

[WeissTreufel]

In the episode 'The Curse', which introduced Osiris, we actually got to see an 'archaic' Goa'uld ship that was in use during the old days of second Goa'uld Dynasty. Osiris used it to escape earth at the end of the episode. That is a major clue to all of this. It also states in the lore that the Goa'uld had only limited access to Ancient technology. So it is doubtful that they had any abandoned ancient ships. They likely could only find an Ancient outpost or two.

[builder]

Well, your Theory has a lot of holes.
For one the intermediate society that the goa'uld supposedly inhabited in between the Unas and humans has never been seen or heard of with the only possible exception being the ancients, who are 99% human anyway and it would not make sense to switch to humans afterwards deliberately.
In my opinion its more likely they ended up figuring out how to operate a stargate and then travel to other worlds, ending up meeting humans (probably on earth) and stumbling across abandoned ancient technology, in which order is impossible to say.
Then they reverse engineered the technology and ended up building their own technology from that, though at a lower quality than the original ancient technology, partly due to the Goa'uld simply not having any production facilities needed themselves, as well as the samples of ancient technology likely being largely incomplete. Kind if similar how your average human can easily understand the basic principles by which a rocket gets into orbit, but actually recreating that using the means of an average person with even close to the same performance cant be done.
This theory is much better supported since a lot of Goa'uld technology is either a direct copy of ancient technology (like the ring transporter) or only a simplified version of something that the ancients have (like shields, plasma weapons, etc.). Very little of their technology is a completely new invention, such as the gate glider, and is usually based on technological principles that were already known to them. The only times the Goa'uld, or more specifically individual ones, make technological strides, is usually because they have uncovered a new cache of ancient technology they could reverse engineer, most prominently Anubis.

[agousby]

Nice call-out and also a nice summary of the non-canon "Ptah" theory. As you mentioned (and against & in conjunction with builder396's claims), the Goa'uld didn't create their own root technology, but in turn scavenged and reverse engineered it for alternate purposes (i.e. the sarcophagus is based on a reversed engineered Atlantan healing device). Anubis and B'al were shown to be good inventors, but when I promote the title of this video, I'm talking about the major technology. FTL travel, ship design, shield design, how naquahdah can improve control over electronic devices, etc. These root technologies are the things I speak of. If you're coming into a world from your symbiosis with the Unas to one that is already controlled by the 4 great races, you have a lot of advancement to do in a short time. Although, this can be accelerated by taking an advanced being as a host. Since you noted the StargateWiki is not a source for canon, I won't go into the theory of the Furlings creating the goa'uld after the Ancients created humans to have a legacy (oops, I just did).

[cameronbird]

I think the ship designs themselves were designed by the goaúld because they're relatively new but the tech they are based on was stolen from multiple sources ruins, conquered civilisations, espionage and then reverse engineered and adapted to suit goaúld needs.