'Science' Tries to Decide Which Martial Art is Strongest

Idk. Doesn't seem right that Taekwondo won.

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[Swuesman]

I remember watching this program years ago, and I was like, “Oh, that’s cool. But isn’t science all about controlled experimentation?” The guys are different weight classes throwing pretty much the same kick, except karate for some reason. They really did Simon Rhee dirty. The guy is a legend and has devastating tornado kicks from Taekwondo. Not sure why he was representing karate, especially noting the aforementioned weight class issue. Nat Geo. Smh

[youmadbro]

That "karate" guy who did the front kick is Taekwondo Master Simon Rhee and in his prime, he was probably the most badass guy on that stage. At the time of this recording, he was pushing 50+ years old. Probably why he did a front kick.
His brother Phillip Rhee is amazing as well. They were in the movie The Best of the Best together.

[TheDarKGamEr]

I remember a video about capoeira having the strongest kick, and it was the same, this get super old lmao

[frontline]

I’m not a capoeira guy but I have trained with Mestre Kinha from Capoeira Besouro and I can tell you now that Capoeira has the most advanced kicking curriculum and most unique sweeps in martial arts, far more advanced then any other stand up martial arts system.

Second to Capoeira I’d say Taekwondo has a far more advanced kicking curriculum then any other martial arts. If you’ve seen Larate from the 20s and 1930s you’d see that the kicks utilized today in karate were not even present yet.

With that being said as a Gung fu and Kenpo man I still say Capoeira has the strongest kicks.

Additionally to that fact, how they land after a kick is landed or missed is out of strategy not out of flaw and they are not only comfortable fighting from
Those positions but extremely effective in those positions.

[marcusaurelius]

I remember watching this when it first came out. I was training in Muay Thai with the Thai instructor who used to train Uriah Faber (there was some bad blood between them). Anyway, we would spar with TKD practitioners one or twice a month to teach us how to attack and defend people with other skills. TKD guys are insanely fast. There was one fighter who had a "slap kick." He would "slap" your bare arm with his foot and leave toe prints. It wasn't a deep bruise like a normal kick might leave but it was so fast it pretty much landed at will, and it was very painful. I winced when I watched this guy kick the bag in the video. It brought back some horrible memories.

[HIITKarate]

That took me on a Rollercoaster of saying "this is less of a react and more of a lesson on kicks" then immediately laughing at x-rays about butts

[ninjascoob]

I also remember this and been a TKD practitioner I always liked it 😜. Seriously though I always thought they did karate a disservice with him using a front kick, to this day I still dont understand the thought process that went in to making that decision 🤷‍♂️

[fabiank]

Brens kicking technique is perfect. I think the answer is quite simple:it's the thousands of more reps compared to other arts (on cost of some other skills of course). It's basically boxing with your legs. Still even as team Taekwondo i don't give too much about this test. It all depends on the athlethes and their strenghts and preferences what and how they train. There are different levels within each art of its own. And yes, the Karate thing was unfair. Would have loved to see bren doing a tornado kick btw

[kevintse]

I’ve realized that the heavier/stiffer the target is, the more it’s sensitive to mass. The lighter/more flexible, the more sensitive to speed. For example, a double end bag does care how much mass you throw in, it’s all dependent on speed. A slap will make it go crazy more than a knee.

[KickyFut]

The artists themselves chose the kick they wanted to use. If I remember correctly, Karate guy picked the front kick because it's in a straight line as opposed to the arc that the round kicks are. Straight line is faster = more force.(according to him)

[Markperna]

Is it ok to say that I think I like this channel more than your original one (and I like the original one just fine)? Great video!

[IHateHandleNames]

So I'm not much of a kickey-boy, but it looks to me like the Taekwondo guy is just so efficient at sending all of his mass into that rotation for the kick.

It looked like his body sped up and rotated perfectly in unison, then made absolutely no effort to stop or balance until after the impact. The Muay Thai guy by comparison looked less willing to just fully commit to that spin, probably for defensive reasons. Brent seemed like he would do a full 360° if that missed, and Muay Thai guy was trading raw power for the ability to recover if he had to.

[jj-wpwc]

I like this one. Sensei Seth is examining one of the few empirical studies on martial arts and power of techniques. I think those natgeo shows did a great job, with some accuracy. Sensei Seth is demonstrating the importance of "Peer review". Empirical research requires peer review to explore the validity and limitations of studies and their findings! ALL empirical studies should discuss both their findings and the limitations of their research, and natgeo did not do the latter.
Keep it up Sensei!!

[Karce]

You can also see in the video that TKD uses the top of the foot, whereas MT uses the shin. More speed and power on the end of a lever, but also more delicate bones in this case so I suppose it's another tradeoff.

Cool vid, Sensei Seth!

[Ivuspp]

3:12 - it's funny, because "martelo de negativa" literally means "hammer of refusal". But then I found out that "negativa" in capoeira means like "dodge" or "squat". Great video, great fan! Cheers from Brazil!

[the_guitarcade]

Asking about how much energy 1800 ft-lbf is: a 7.62x39 from an AKM will have about 2000 ft-lbf as it exits the muzzle, and a 5.56x45 from an AR-15 will have about 1750 ft-lbf when it does. If you're wearing level 4 plate armor and get hit by one of those rounds so it dumps its energy on your surface instead of poking a hole through you with it, that's what the capoeira kick feels like. The karate guy's front kick was comparable to a 9mm.

[Ventus_the_Heathen]

Kwonkicker has a great video explaining what we in old school TKD usually call "jump powered round kicks" he's pulling with his front leg and then actually driving back down into the floor like he's jumping through the bag.

[ajshiro]

Why a front kick? Why not... a side kick

[ckfm]

I'd really like to see you react to the old "Human Weapon" series. How bullshido are the "ancient arts" they encounter, how serious are the techniques and what are your takes on the final fights. They do some of the Fight Science-style animations, but the "hosts" are real people and the locations are sometimes quite gorgeous.

[misterkami]

You're having the exact same problems with the video as I had, man! It was always super interesting what they did with the Fight Science.. but somehow always a little off, as if they didn't know a thing about martial arts.. and of course the pronunciations lol. You nailed it btw