Why Cabba Vs SSJ4 Gogeta Is Not Close

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[kodyYaps]

give cabba a better design and ppl will prob start to like him lol

[ojpickle]

Using manga cabba is a better comparison since he's weaker

[rabbitcorp.]

Ur not taking into account that the movies r cannon to GT's timeline, in the movies goku (just by powering up to ss3) shook the entire afterlife and that was before the timeskip from z - to - gt and he only got stronger from there

And remember Goku was only putting out HALF that energy beerus was only using enough to match it so ssg goku is only half of that feet

[theaustraliankangapus]

This video sure loves cherry-picking:
1. Super Sayian grade 4 doesn’t have a higher multipler than grade 2 and 3. It’s literally just super saiyan without the stamina drain (so still 50x) The reason why Goku’s stronger than Vegeta and Trunks is because mastering the Super Saiyan was the best way for him and Gohan to get the most efficient training possible, opting for balance than raw power.
2. GT Goku was able to destabilise Sugoroku Space which was a dimension in between Universe 7 casually with a Kamehameha before he had his tail pulled out. I know this isn’t as impressive as God Goku’s feat but it still shows that base GT Goku while as a kid has dimension busting capabilities.
3. GT is a continuation of the DBZ anime and not the manga. So feats like Buuhan’s screams breaking down the dimensional walls that could collapse the universe in a domino effect and Kid Buu being the strongest Buu is canon to that continuity meaning that GT characters would be scaled way higher.
4. Omega Shenron’s aura itself was the one slowly destroying the universe. Let me repeat that, his mere AURA was slowly eradicating the universe with him putting no effort. If he can do that without even trying then it stands to reason that Omega Shenron with little more effort can destroy the universe and Gogeta curb stomped that!

[Lol-dwxb]

I still believe SSJ4 Gogeta is still winning against Cabba. Its just that Toriyama didn't actually give all character how powerful they are.

[Suii]

Honestly the reason Goegta held back was due to him wanting Omega to draw out his full power not to mention you also forgot the fact he had a boost zenaki form his x10 and asborbing and tanking the death ball and you also forgot ssj4 fp and ultra full power

[jpfanlife]

4:35 There's one little problem with that statement. Chozenshuu 3 was published on April 4, 2013, not even a week after the release of the Battle of Gods movie (March 30, 2013). The first episode of the DBS Anime aired on July 5, 2015 (Over 2 years later). So, that statement would only apply to the movie version of SSG, not the DBS version.

[___________ZX]

Everything you said is true, and this is why I hate the power scaling in super.

[jonathanhargraves]

SS4 Gogeta would have beaten the brakes off of Beerus in BoG, but that's irrelevant since he is still vastly weaker than Cabba because it is Dragon Ball Super, a show where Goku went from Kid Buu's level to universe buster in the span of an hour and a half. It was never going to work for him 💀

[Shoddragon]

4:35 I'm genuinely curious how people keep managing to get this weird interpretation from the page. In literally NONE of the pages is ssj4 directly compared to God in power or multiplication or anything. SSJ4 is described as being the ultimate ssj form in reference to GT, hence being directly compared to SSJ3. God form also appears in the chouzenshuu but isn't called an ultimate form because Battle of Gods had just recently come out and Resurrection of F wouldn't even be ANNOUNCED until a year later. Thus the writers would have no reason to try labeling it an "ultimate form" when a more powerful form might literally come out a year or two later.

[metalhaki]

Nah we literally talking about the last transformation for all saiyans against a random aah bum that just came, no way Cabba would win or survive a single blow. Power Scalling sometimes sound wierd as hell (nice video)

[Pack]

Vegeta was simply training cabba not actually going serious, he showed cabba blue to keep cabba motivated to keep getting stronger after. While to compare omega shenron threatened the universe by just existing, standing not even doing an energy attack let alone the minus negative energy attack that gogeta not only easily kicked away but also purified it. I dont know why people thought ssj2 gohan beats cabba which is a blasphemous take considering supers scaling but i will definitely fight cabba beating ssj4 gogeta. Also z movies is canon to gt so that further buffs gt scaling. Another note is gt follows dragon ball z anime not the manga which further scales gt higher considering anime statements and feats in comparison to the manga

[sansgaming]

Even tho i know gogeta is strong im keeping this agenda up, its just to funny

[maku]

If i can ask, were do you get the scans for the chozenshuu? I can't find anywere to read even the raws

[bloody]

Deleted my latest comment because I found someone else commenting exactly what I wanted to say. Let us not be redundant here.

[GIGANIGA_]

He said strongest Saiyan form so super Saiyan to 4 not including god Goku

[pasty]

Oh, you got it wrong did you forget one thing all of the movie canon GT Vegeta no Fusion dance so yeah and he’s the one who suggested the Fuison dance gogeta solos

[dopekingcoco]

I genuinely don’t understand this if character like 17 were able to keep up with ssbss goku before the top which should quote on quote be millions of times stronger then the goku that that faught beerus realistically 17 should at least be ssj2-3 lvl so why can’t ssj4 beat cabba it doesn’t make sense

[newberryanimation]

Cabba doesn't win, and i can prove it. Gt goku is end of dragon ball z goku, which toryama says hes the strongest thing hes made and cant think of any stronger meaning arale who manipulates time space and litteraly turns the page of her manga is weaker then end of z goku. So gt goku beats arale as a kid. Even better, the battle of gods movie happened in gts canon as well. Theirs a guidebook that states that the gsmes shows GT goku knows beerus. So in gt during the baby vegeta ark from memory GT goku was about to be put into a infinite dimensional area simular to the world of void thats in super for that saga. While ultra instinct shook the world of void, GT goku in base broke that dimention with one Kamehameha. Before people say it was already broken, it was the game inside that dimension that was breaking, not the dimension itself. Making it known that tournament of power ultra instinct goku gets beat by a base gt goku. No difference. Btw baby vegetas revenge death ball acts like a hakai, wrasing people from existence. Its so bad they dont even go to the other world because even their souls are gone and erased. With that being said, ssg4 gt goku tanked that same death ball. Meaning hes capable of tanking full concept erasure like Superman. Not only that, but the shadow shenron could have one tapped the universe but made the other shenrons instead. Omega shenron full power could destroy the entire macrocosm with full power, not even full power because him existing was doing that itself. Even worse, if the GTs universe forever expands, that means shenrons' auras were so powerful that it made the entire universe feel like it was imploding.

[jordandavilabrown]

1. Super Saiyan 4 at the bare minimum is a 100 times increase from Super Saiyan 3 since Super Baby 2 was somewhat comparable in strength to a Golden Oozaru Goku, and SSJ4 Goku was comparable in strength to a Golden Oozaru Baby means that SSJ4 has 10 times more power than the Oozaru form thus making it a 100 times increase from SSJ3 or 40, 000 to 800, 000 times increase from base (depending on how strong you think the Mastered SSJ form is).

2. I recommend you watch Broku's video called "Does Cabba Really Beat Gogeta" in order to understand.