AMD 3950X or Threadripper? | The Difference between Want & NEED

This is about who the 3950X is really for....and therefore also who is really going to be buying Threadripper moving forward. In reality - this is about what "HEDT" really means moving forward.
1) 0:08 Intro to the modern Thread Wars
2) 1:28 The 3 Categories of Creators
3) 5:52 Why AMD’s HEDT Positioning is Shifting
4) 9:39 Who is the 3950X for?
5) 13:06 Remember, you can still buy TR2000!
6) 14:21 Why I care so much about Concurrency
7) 15:26 So who is Threadripper 3000 really for?
8) 16:25 Closing Thoughts

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[miguelangelriveiro]

Working here in VFX. Thanks for nailing it in this video.
Threadripper is a GOd-sent cpu for all of us. Not just the indies, but for small companies too!.
Intel was killing us all charging absurd figures for a "just one notch more" CPU.
Seriously hope this last TR gen start to be seen on System builders like HP...
Or at least the workstation wr80x format comes to life... That would be brutal.

[acidnut]

I am thinking about upgrading to a 3950x to watch Youtube more smoothly.

[Cadambank]

Awesome explanation man. People need to understand why they need to buy something and needs that to be hammered in to them.

Average people wreck themselves buying something they want not what they need. Being one of them I applaud you for making this video.

[DrearierSpider]

It's amazing to me that just 3 years ago the top end HEDT chip was a 10 core with 44 PCIe 3.0 lanes for $1700, and now people are bitching about $2000 for a 32 core with 72 PCIe 4.0 lanes (just counting lanes to the CPU).

[karlkukk]

1) 0:08 Intro to the modern Thread Wars
2) 1:28 The 3 Categories of Creators
3) 5:52 Why AMD’s HEDT Positioning is Shifting
4) 9:39 Who is the 3950X for?
5) 13:06 Remember, you can still buy TR2000!
6) 14:21 Why I care so much about Concurrency
7) 15:26 So who is Threadripper 3000 really for?
8) 16:25 Closing Thoughts

[NateSnowstorm]

Can confirm, I only bought a 2920x because I got it for $240. The RAM upgradability is nice though :D (oh, and triple NVME raid, not because I need it, but because I can)

[Knowbody]

The 3950X is going to capture a lot of the people who would otherwise have bought a 9900K.
_"I want a top of the line machine that will last me X years. What should I buy?"_

[marcoskhan]

I like your take on pros and semi pros. I just build a 3960X system solely for rendering purposes. It is my 3rd work station that's just dedicated for that.

[AdrianDucao]

Don't forget the software developers, we can benefit too with these processors

[VTOLfreak]

I am a SQL DBA. I eat ram and cores for lunch. It is NEVER enough. :p

[McToaster-ok]

I do AI/algorithm optimization for living. 3950x is exactly what I have been looking for

[BcHmF]

Before threadripper, hedt was a joke.

[BlackGekikara]

Thank you for this. I have been scratching my head over people freaking out at these prices because I didn't get it!

[michellandau]

I really appreciate how Tom chooses his clothing for the video topics ;)

[bigmike]

Well said, well thought out, good arguments for each aspect of the segmentation of the industry.

[GludDK]

I acutally think your random lag spikes on the recordings are due to your webcams auto exposure dropping shutter speed below 1/30 to compensate for the lack of light. Below 1/30 you can no longer maintain 30fps (that's pretty obvious, right?), so that might be what's creating the lag-like effect. Just a thought.

[rudolfabelin]

Hi! I do understand you talk about content creators. BUT I live in a different world. It's called science, heard about it? LOL I'm an expert on small computational servers and computational workstations. The new Threadrippers are a steal!!! I guess you don't have a insight into fields like FEA and CFD. This is so cheap!!!" Love your videos! Greetings from Sweden!

[FIRSTEBITOS]

I will buy the r9 3950x to make a mini server :)

[junkerzn]

For some jobs ram requirements scale with cores. Not necessarily something like a render, where all the cores are chomping on the same data set. But for compile jobs and databases (which is our use case) scaling to more cores requires a minimum of 2GB of ram per cpu thread. This is the only real limitation for us on AM4 verses a TR or EPYC socket.

The AM4 socket can accommodate 64GB of ram conventionally but actually 128GB is possible with 32GB sticks, so 16 cores (32 threads) still works for us... but it isn't ideal. And 32GB ECC UDIMM sticks tend to be significantly more than twice as expensive as 16GB ECC UDIMM as well as slower since they would have to be run at 2133 or 2400 due to line loading.

Beyond that we need a TR or EPYC platform. It isn't even a memory bandwidth issue in our particular case. The CPU caches are large enough that, for us, it is mostly a matter of giving each thread enough memory to work with.

-Matt

[Melthornal]

I have a buddy who does sports betting, and every second counts in that industry. He pays literally millions a year on his internet access just so he can get the data a fraction of a second faster. he uses a threadripper on his test rig and a dedicated, for lack of a better term, super computer for his main ‘rig’.