BEST NEW 64MM GRINDER? DF64 GEN 2 vs ZERNO Z1 vs DF64V vs KOPI

REVIEW AND COMPARISON: DF64 V2 DF64V Kopi Concepts Deca ZERNO Z1

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Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:20 - Standart Magazine
2:43 - Zerno
4:39 - Kopi Deva
13:24 - DF64V
20:00 - DF64 V2
26:34 - Outro

[benjaminbutton]

Would love to see a 64mm burr comparison. Mostly the SSP lineup, Mizens, and Gorilla Gear

[Goodmorning____Lifestyle]

I love your video. I have been using the Kopi Deva for approx 4 months and backed them on Indigogo when they launched—I waited two years… for the grinder.

But just wanted to correct a few things on this video.

1. The grinder comes with a holder and the dosing cup can actually sit nicely, and the coffee grind will go directly into it. No mess

2. The retention rate, The grinder comes with an RDT bottle. Just like all grinders, RDT it and I have no issues with retention. But I know this is subjective.

3. To feed the beans into the grinder, it comes with a nice stainless steel bean cup that you can weigh your coffee beans on, and the size of the cup fits directly into the grinder with no problem.

Hope that helps. It's a great grinder but with a premium price, unfortunately. (well… at least it is better value than lagom )

[webmihir]

64mm grinders have a huge advantage in that the burr options are much cheaper than 83mm. I would love to see you compare df64 gen2 w/ SSP MP, df64v with DLC and df83v2 with standard Itamill steel burrs as they all start to be in comparable price ranges with those burrs. If df64 + SSP MP tastes as good as df83 + standard burrs, that would be a HUGE advantage in favor of df64 gen2.

[TreStonesss]

Perfect timing, Kyle! I was just searching up a video about a great 2023 grinder.

[juliendaoust]

Really surprise that the Timemore wasn’t on this video with the hype that these grinder cause in 2023! Probably one of the most anticiped grinder in the last few years.

[camiloaguirre]

After watching this I can see a lot of DF64 Gen 1 grinders hitting ebay or marketplace. Hopefully this will make grinders more accessible to everyone 🙏

[almndighs]

We all FELT that reaction to the beans coming out of the chute of the DF64V. Thanks for the great review!

[deathbert]

I just received my DF64V today and have only ground some old beans but not brewed anything yet. I'm really impressed by how quiet the grinder is, and the paint (I have the black model) is so much better looking in real life than what I was expecting from photos I've seen on-line. The paint really looks great and that was a huge relief. Things I don't like: Even though I'd been told I have the new model with the non-stalling controller board I did manage to stall it at 600 RPM using medium roast beans from a cold start. I turned it over and dumped out all the beans out, started it, and it was fine. The other thing I don't like is that is quiet so there's no easy way to tell it's on. I ground some beans at 600 RPM again and it was so quiet after it was done I accidentally left it running for 10 mins or so. I'm afraid I'll forget and leave it on all day if I'm not careful. I wish either that it'd turn off automatically when it was done or that the RPM dial light would turn off when the grinder's off. The light on the RPM dial is really bright and it's not great that it's on all the time anyway. Seems like a simple oversight that would have been an easy thing to do right. In any case, in general I'm happy and looking forward to playing with it this weekend.

[Zehtuka]

I have the KOPI Deva since 2 months and from what I can read improvements were made compared to yours from a previous/older batch. Personally when using RDT with the included glass spray bottle I have minimum retention, and only rarely do I have to run the motor again to get it all out. I was shocked to see how much got stuck in your video! (8:50)

[Daniel_Adam]

Im still struggling to understanding is it worth going for the bigger df83? Apart from the more powerfull motor what others advantage would there be? Would it be worth paying the extra?

[glantalstudfamiliebartz]

Great Video! For me is the DF64V and the df64 gen 2 the best grinder for the low money you can have!
My favourite is the DF64V! All out metal and no plastic, this is for me the best match 👍

[RoofisDoofis]

Would love to see comparisons of generations of grinders through time. (Baratza, eureka, niche, Webber, df, zerno…..)

[MoKiShea]

The palm tapping is such a good tip!! Even with RDT I've been banging on my lagom mini to get the last bit out (probably not good for the alignment, I know). I was considering getting some bellows and hadn't heard the complaints you mentioned. I'm really glad I didn't because I can definitely see that being a really annoying problem. Just the palm tapping speeds up my grind time and removes the need for the bellows and RDT!

[stk]

@KyleRowsell We drink 90% espresso (Flair 58+) based drinks with the remining 10% being french press or moka for guests. Should I get the Df64 Gen2 with ssp hu burrs or Df83 gen 2 with stock italmill or something elae I haven't considered? Thank you!

[coffeecove]

Even though I'm not out to buy a lot of grinders, I enjoy hearing about grinders anyway; especially new ones.

[alexwilson]

“I know you love them, cause so do I” he says with a tear in his eye as the Youtube algorithm looks on with a smile

[Captn_Slow]

The work flow of that Deva grinder is just comical. Really cracks me up, honestly!

[Harry-cggs]

Damn that coffee stream from the DF 64 tho!

[kitcraft]

Kyle, I love grinder comparisons so much that I watch videos on grinders I have zero interest in buying, lol. As always, thank you for the content.

[ahmadrezacoffee]

This last version of DF64 is called Gen 2, not v2. I have a DF64 V2 (made in 2021) but I made some modifications. I changed the declumper to a v4 & also added a control disk above the rotating burr like what Niche zero has got. V4 declumper is much better than the other versions & the control disk enables you to do a hot start without any popcorning issues.