Stop Sliding 🛝 #cello #shorts

Sometimes sliding is great, and sometimes, it isn’t. According to Laurence Lesser, sliding in Bach and Beethoven is not what he wants to hear.

What about you? How do you decide when to slide?

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[anmmcintyr]

Absolutely agree. Vibrato isn't ment to be used for everything!

[MM_SV]

My teacher told me that, quote, if you use vibrato everywhere, you’re not singing with the bow, and you’re just covering up your mistakes and what you should be working on. Vibrato is like an ornament.

[musicwithj]

Same with singing vibrato, there’s times where it’s needed heavily and times where it’s best not to use it. All of that makes you a better singer/musician in the long run

[GNKPLHM]

I’m split. On one hand I hate glissing all over the place and I hate compulsive vibrato, but I also hate people talking like they have the correct opinion on how you should interpret and play the music. The most beautiful thing about classical music is the variety of interpretations you can get, and telling people not to gliss and vibrato on Bach does nothing but restrict others. We all know that in the period vibrato was waaaay more of an ornament than general technique, but it doesn’t matter.
Another one is Mozart. People insist that it has to have that light Mozart-feel or it’s wrong. The problem is that Mozart renditions stick to it so much that I don’t even bother listening to it anymore because it all sounds so similar that there’s no point. I want Mozart played with Shostakovich energy, stylistic “correctness” be damned

[uncledubpowermetal]

Oh I especially love Beethoven with a little gliss, especially in some of his minor works; just a handful of times, cause you can overuse glissando just like you can vibrato

[hmoreno]

Agree, some use excess vibrato to cover up bad intonation

[robappleby]

There have always been changing fashions in performance style, informed by personal taste and the instruments available to the players. You can be sure that when Bach's cello suites were rediscovered in the 19th century, they were played very differently from how they are played today or in Bach's time. The thing is to find a style that is engaging and convincing.

[jasonbaijens]

Bach with portamenti would be iffy but Beethoven with portamenti is actually very period accurate. Many soloists from time were praised over their beautiful portamenti similar to how modern musicians are often praised for their vibrato

[shawncoventry]

I used to buy dime bags from a dude named Glissando down the street. They were super decent. He died in an Arby's parking lot. Slipped on ice and whatnot. That's Illinois for ya. Anyway, RIP, Glissando😢

[gasparocelloman]

Violinist, Ferdinand David (1810-1873), was an important early interpreter/editor of Beethoven’s music. He was apparently an advocate of the use of highly nuanced and expressive portamento. Clive Brown has written much of interest on the use of expressive portamento in 19th century music.

[Dannyboy]

I had glissandos for breakfast this they were great!

[simply.loriii]

I'm glad he says this as it goes for every single instruments and not just cello, because sadly a lot of people that I know goes exactly against what this man says when playing their instrument, and it frustrates me. Of course, some pieces use more vibrato than others, but not every single piece of music that you play needs vibrato. If you play a fast piece, there is absolutely no need for vibrato. Vibrato is used for emotion in the music. Fast paced music does not need it.

[pete]

Over - use of any effect should be avoided. The impact of using effects sparingly is usually far greater on the listener. Less is more, comes to mind!

[jamesonrichards]

Bro needs to provide an example of a phrase with and without vibrato for fuller context

[JerimiahGentry]

In an internet overflowing with bad faith and vitriolic debates it's so calming and refreshing to hear someone hear someone peacefully share a strong opinion about a topic that I know nothing about❤

[MrKlemps]

Right about the vibrato. As for glissandi/ portamenti, his preference would eliminate Casals, Menuhin, Heifetz, Busch, Fuermann, Piatagorsky, and many others. Categorical dogmatism does not work well for any human endeavor but especially so in the arts.

[torbreww]

For most of us string players vibrato is an automatic nervous twitch which we can’t stop unless we really think about it.

[connormoon]

For the average musician, it’s just a feeling with no deeper thought. If it feels right and you enjoy it, then do it. Do not strive for perfection unless you seek a life of endless improvement and disappointment in yourself. Have fun and let the rest come along the way. If you are not in an orchestra or auditioning for a high end music school, you do not need the stress. Enjoy what you love and do it for yourself

[carlosandres]

Play the way it comes out of you. He doesn't have to like your music. Nobody has to.

[timothyscheidler]

The type of ornamentation you use and where you put that ornamentation, and how much of it, is a personal choice within reason.