Why Sirius Convinced The Potters That Remus Was The Traitor

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Why Sirius Convinced The Potters That Remus Was The Traitor. Find out in todays video.

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Makes total sense that they were all united as friends because of James. Once he was married and also isolated due to hiding, it is really logic that they discovered how James held them together as a group of friends and how in reality, outside of James' influence over each one of them, it was easy to doubt one another and distrust one another.
This theory is brilliant and is now my head canon. Well done Dean!

grec.
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Wow, I never thought too hard about the repercussions of if Lupin had attacked Snape, especially if he had died or been crippled. James clearly had more foresight on the consequences which is why he saved someone he didn’t even like. Glad you brought that to my attention, because indeed even Dumbledore couldn’t have argued for Remus at a trial of werewolf vs. deceased half blood. (Which is probably how it would’ve been framed by the Ministry, we all know they’re racist in the wizarding way.

ntwwolf
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This was a well thought out explanation of the dynamics of friendship, trust and tolerance of the members of the Marauders. I always enjoy your videos.

trustmemysonisadoctor
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This is one of the better theories out there, and it fits with their characters... Even though I like Sirius, l always thought it was a crappy thing he did, not just to Snape, but to his supposed friend Remus. He never gave it a second thought of how devastated Remus would have been to have actually hurt or possibly killed someome, even Snape. Not to mention all the other serious repercussions, and not just to Remus and Snape, but the backlash Dumbledore would've received by allowing Remus to be admitted into Hogwarts to begin

lxena
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I never realized that they were all bonded by James. Always believed that they were close friends (except Peter)

jonwashburn
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I see multiple reasons: first the marauders were the duo James and Sirius, plus Peter and Remus as side kicks, so can't be Sirius. Then remain Peter and Remus... if you were Voldemort who would be interesting for you to recruit ? Who would wan't Peter ?... Just Remus remained, the werewolf as you said, who were mostly on Voldemort side and secondly, they are peoples used to keeping secret, having a second life. Before all of these events, who would think Peter, the "weak", "the cowards" (fatal misjudgments) would be able to keep a secret (especially as enormous), to betray, to attrack the attention of Voldemort... the thing they didn't anticipate is that it wasn't V who recruited or forced Peter... it is Peter who contacted Voldemort, that they didn't see it coming.

charlesjermyn
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Glad Sirius's atrocities are laid bare.

It was not cool what he did to Snape and Remus, shows that James for such a bully he is put his pride aside for Snape and probably pranked him a week latet

andrewshearsby
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You explained the friendship between the Marauders perfectly better than I did when I tried explaining it to my kids

timbit
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But it's never mentioned that James mistrusted Remus. Remus even implies that he did when he said James considered it the height of dishonor to mistrust his friends.

Tasha
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Black may have been different from his family, but he was still a pure blood bigot. Lupin and Snape were both half bloods and Lupin was a Half Breed on top of it. James is the one Sirius truly cared about.

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Yes, often friend groups start out (& stay) as not equal friendships between all members but centered around 1 or 2 leaders or "pillars". Music groups are well known for functioning that way too. When the leader isn't there to mediate, designate, be the oil that helps thing move, then it becomes clearer how the individuals in the group truly get along with each other.
James & Sirius were very immature at 1st, both privileged from having grown up in wealthy families even though the families were very different when it came to morals. (Thus Snape calling James names when talking to Harry, because in his eyes James didn't deserve praise, he was just a bully.) James was the 1st to fully mature & understand that the "pranks", aka bullying episodes, were going too far & could cause true harm on both sides. Despite Sirius eventually turning against his parents & going to live with James, he still had that prejudiced stuff crammed in his brain from childhood, so he probably didn't realise that added to his uncertainty of Rhemus' loyalty. He was blinded by the same prejudices as many other wizards. In the end it was a big mistake that couldn't be taken back.

tamarasmith
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I had never thought of it before that James was the glue that bonded them together, but it does make perfect sense now.

williamlynnroden
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It also boils down to this. Sirius Orion Black is stupid. I have a what if scenario for you, if you're interested. What if Remus were the Secret Keeper & Godfather instead of Sirius?

spiderxand
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Even though we don't know whether or not Remus Lupin ever joined a pack as a werewolf while in wolf form, neither from reading the Potter books or the films but there is always the indication that he was always a lone wolf while in beast form. In "Prisoner of Azkaban" 'Beast Form' Lupin (Due to forgetting to take his wolfsbane potion at that time) was probably only following the sound of a howl because somewhere in his human subconscious that he heard someone that is familiar to him but his beast brain still does not recognize the familiarity of the sound and can only assume that another werewolf was calling to him.

HeatherNickless-vtzr
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Surfshark : why Turkey when you can select ROMANIA? You forgot who went to study dragons there?

dragoscristea
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As an old HP fan, I can’t even imagine where Wolfstar ship came from.
There was not one single line in the books that made me think of it, and it’s even stated on the official website that Remus had never fallen in love before he fell for Tonks.
Sirius didn’t care enough for Remus to think about what would become of him had he bitten Snape following his so-called “prank”. Even a very wreckless teenager would put his love interest above any other thing.
Plus, Sirius was always much closer to James than to Remus and didn’t even trust Remus to be James’ secret Keeper! And why? Because he was a werewolf. Didn’t he know him enough to know the man he truly was? He did it out of prejudice. Very unlike Tonks, I would say. She accepted and loved Remus as he was.
So, no, I can’t ship Remus with someone who didn’t care that much about him. I love Remus too much to be a Wolfstar shipper.

mariad_arte
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For those who don’t want an HP TV series, but want the friggin Marauders instead… do they really not remember what these group of bullies did to REMUS, their own friend? It’s not Snape vs the Marauders, it’s just a bunch of brats with no big bad adversary to overshadow their bullying. Has anyone considered the economic difference between them too? Sirius and James were very rich, they could’ve done a lot for their werewolf friend… but he’s not really their friend. He’s just a wolf-pet, who’s not allowed to talk back cuz he’s dirt poor.

randdiamond
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Yeah the war made even the closest of friends paranoid and with what Sirius did in the school years I’m not surprised

MultifandomNerd
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This is exactly what I always say!! Sirius wasn't much of a friend for Remus.

justcallmemrslupin
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Great video. Its a shame they were only friends through James.

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