Shadowlands Is Being ERASED?! Chronicle Vol. 4 LEAKED!

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The new Chronicle book is coming out in a few days but some early copies have arrived and we got a ton of brand new lore information. The book recaps the past 5 expansions and while nothing too groundbreaking has been revealed yet there are some passages that seem to continue the trend of making Shadowlands less and less relevant.

Blizzard already acknowledged that Shadowlands was a mess from the story perspective that had damaged the sub count, recent book from the beta started already soft retconning some info and this new Chronicle book seems to follow the same trend. They can't just say this never happened but they are seemingly trying to tie some of the loose ends and confine the crazyness of the Shadowlands into the past and keeping it inside that expansion. So what is this new Chronicle information?

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I’d be happy if the retcon to shadowlands was “none of it happened, everybody was tripping hard on brownies they got from a troll.”

jacobislucas
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Yes they could "it was all an illusion from Nzoth"

stephenhaldane
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I just hope blizzard will say something along the lines "our characters were put under a genjutsu it was all an illusion" when it comes Shadowlands

That_kind_of_orc
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Anyway, if you die in the Shadowlands where do you go? Detroit?

ffarkasm
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Still gunna say that the Shadowlands was a collective Azerite induced high, and everyone was tripping our badly

ashameimaru
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What happened in shadowlands, stays in shadowlands!

gortex
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honestly calling the first ones a myth be smart. in fact they could always retcon it to them actually being another name for the titans. cause honestly the whole first ones stuff just sounded like someone at blizz went i want to have my own titans that i made screw the original titans. cause the first ones pretty much where what the titans were originally in nilla wow. just more obvious robotics.

AbiyBattleSpell
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None of these shenanigans would happen if Afrasiabi and Danuser did their homework. Chronicles were written between the launches of WoD and BfA (coincidentally when Metzen was no longer in the game's writing team, and he soon retired when volume 1 came out), and the whole "Titan's perspective" was a horrible excuse for them to justify why everything from those books (and the previous Lore sources) got discontinued or retconed.

Those Chronicles books are obscenely well written, fleshing out not only the cosmology but also the magic system and the chronology. It's so good you can't just pretend it doesn't exist, answering a lot of the important questions while putting all the pieces together, from the very genesis of the Great Dark Beyond till Cataclysm (and incorporating all the Pandaria's Lore within it). Shadowlands was garbage, but people forget how bad the writing became once MoP finished. WoD got its entire story cut, Legion was a black hole of a mess, BfA tried to tell thousands of different plots at once, and DF straight up reinvented the dragon's Lore unnecessarily (seriously, you could perfectly put most of its concepts with stuff already established in the Lore, but the choose the most difficult path and left this mess unfinished).

lucianoftw
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i still die inside remembering how saurfang was killed off and how tirion was killed by a no name demon.

grovestreet
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Fix how dirty they did Arthas and i will be fine.

x_ghost_x
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They could have redeemed that expac if they had followed the story we suspected with the Primus being the actual bad guy and he had been controlling the dipshit jailer. It would have made so much sense and been way cooler.

eisande
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Really feels like they're trying to make good on the story this time around. I mean, the complexity of Shadowlands still doesn't feel like the problem to me. The Dune series is complex as hell, but people still love that convoluted pile of psychedelia. It's like you said, what matters is how they handle it. Shadowlands sucked because the narrative just sucked. Hiding too many cards, not really letting us know what's going on. The big villain was always telling us the truth was too complex, but it's not like we ever got to see the truth for ourselves. The lore was nothing but lame placeholders. It's like the writers said "uhhh, maybe we'll tell you the truth once we decide what it's even gonna be in the first place... but trust me bro, it's gonna be so complex and huge it's gonna blow your mind! Yeah...." I bet the new writing team didn't even have to do any rewrites of Steve Danuser's lore because all they were given was a napkin with "[fight some big evil guy]" scribbled on it.

pirojfmifhghek
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If this keeps up, Blizzard may as well treat Shadowlands as Command and Conquer fans would C&C 4.

mayuri
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I think ya'll miss a point, Shadowlands wont ever be retconned, part of it will be for sure because it just doesnt make sense however you add it up.

But first ones will always be a thing, and no, not everyone is f*king robot, only creatures that wander around Zereth Mortis and Eternal ones are "robots" like Zovaal was.

Funniest thing 100% more people will ignore new info and hints in Chronicle Vol.4 on Primus being mastermind behind "jailer".
It is referenced and questioned as how did Primus, the inventer and master of domination magic lose to chained Zovaal in maw.
Thank god we still have few content creators talking about it. Because its obvious they won't let it go, however much people want it to believe.

UncrownedKingDante
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How about: the jailer was a liar. The end

Handles
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From a story perspective, don’t mess with the mystery of the after life.
Good stories need mystery and death is the big one.

LeviFuller
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Good, slowly but surely diminish the events of Shadowlands until no one cares to remember at all.

tatalsaba
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5:40 Looks like somebody at Blizzard has been studying geometry. Going with the dimensions of the shape as described on Wikipedia, it would seem that the 20 planes of existence are the hexateron’s 20 faces, the 15 transitory pathways are its 15 cells, and the 6 vertices are… its 6 vertices.

sagenod
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I think whats going to be important tot remember about Chronicle 4 is that these are written from Titan perspective, so what we're going to get might not be new lore, but rather we're going to get some insight onto what the titans were thinking over the last few expansions and how they felt about the outcomes etc. This will be very telling i think.

ephasm
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honestly as messy as it is it's the only choice as long as Shadowlands exists death has no weight. Baine dies oh well Anduin can just visit his friend in the shadowlands anytime he wants.

DagothDaddy