Navy OCS 23-97 - Awesome Inspection Arms

Hands down, one of the best Inspection Arms movements ever recorded at Navy OCS or either MCRD's.

[crouchje]

You sire are a well articulated man who latches onto the indicators of those demonstrating their immaturity and tells it like it is.

OOHRAH!

[crouchje]

Thanks for the comment Warrior. It all comes down to two things. How much leeway does the D.I. get with punishment PT and how much freedom does the D.I. have with the schedule. The beauty of Navy OCS at the time I served there was we had tremendous leeway. Most of my classes only got 4-5 weeks of drill time before their drill evaluation. I spent the first 10-20 days just torturing their bodies with IPT. When I got the discipline I wanted, I would then start teaching and begin the positive.

[commandant]

i was at navy ocs place for njrotc leadership academy they were intense!

[crouchje]

In six years of training recruits (four at PISC), I have only heard a perfect inspection arms about 4 or 5 times. The M1-Garand has a much stronger spring to pull back. Many a drill team modify their springs to reduce the resistance. I assure you all the springs at Navy OCS were unmodified. Considering the weight of the rifle, resistance of the spring and wider grasp of the lower receiver, the M16-A2 service rifle was much easier to teach. I noticed Plt 3045 performance, Awesome!

[mukband]

@crouchje We are not JROTC we are the Air Force ROTC so college and we use full wood stocks with metal but plates, we sand them, and polish them a lot, and the marine DI that inspected us found them perfect

[crouchje]

Those are M1-Garand rifles.

We taught the movement at Navy OCS with six counts, although the M1-Garand rifle drill was actually 5 counts. We also modified some other nuances to closer mirror the M16 drill because the appearance of some movements of the M1-Garand drill look sloppy.

If the M1-Garand rifle was a weapon they would use after OCS we would have taught it correctly but the only purpose of teaching rifle drill at OCS was to teach discipline, drill, teamwork, attention to detail.

[crouchje]

@ArabsStank

Yes, 13 weeks +/- a few days you are commissioned an Ensign in the Navy.

[crouchje]

@mukband Yes you are correct that MANY JROTC units use the M1-Garand albeit many are the light weight plastic ones. My point regarding who still uses M1-Garands was in regards to our active duty military.

Glad to hear your team did so well. So, out of curiosity are you using wood stocks are the plastic stocks with rubber butt plates? Most JROTC teams opt for the plastic and rubber becuase of the inherent cost of maintaining military grade metal and wood.

[crouchje]

ROFLMAO - The M1-Garand was used at Pensacola from 1947 - 2007 when the school moved to Newport RI. I do know that in the last year or two they moved to the M16-A2 Service rifle. What a sad day to go from a perfect weapon for close order drill to a weapon with a pistol grip and light weight. Now the only M1-Garands being used in drill are those of the Marine Corps Silent Drill Platoon.

[crouchje]

@jmirab

Navy OCS, 1997 in Pensacola FL after the two programs merged in 1994.

[scyth]

ok ok i'll admit this was a pretty lethal inspection.

[treypetermann]

1st Sergeant, do you have any idea where I could purchase a decent M1 or perhaps even the "Classic" M1903? All I can really seem to find in my neck of the woods are the German variants (aka the KAR98K Mauser).

[dsap]

That's impressive! Are all US Naval Officers basic rifleman after they graduate OCS?

[mukband]

@crouchje false, BYU AFROTC drill team, which BTW just took first place at SCIDM uses M1 Grand Rifles :)

[crouchje]

Well, that must have been something to watch then.

[jmirab]

Got it, now it makes sense. The Newport program was not this rigorous.

[primolilla]

@crouchje Yeah it must have been!! LCPStud is 19 now so, , , a little math says he was not even a year old back in 1990. I never found a video of the one he speaks of either. I have my doubts there is anything "way" better than this. Maybe he could provide us all a link to see it instead of leaving a negative comment here.

[crouchje]

She had a tremendous amount of heart and stubborness, gained the trust and admiration of the whole class and the DI's. Most importantly she wanted to be treated as an equal, not a female! Most of my females would quit.

[primolilla]

@crouchje Thank you sir. We've exchanged more than a few e-mails, you and I have. A little hint? Minnesota ring a bell?? I'm still pouting and making a small scene that you won't be here in January. Had a partner and former Marine look at your videos. He said, , "Yeah that guy has nothing to offer our program" LOTS of sarcasm in his tone. And yes!!! a damn fine Inspection Arms.

[crouchje]

@mukband OUTSTANDING, I am so glad to hear adults are feeling the pride and pain of the rifle. Contact me via my profile E-mail and I will send you a couple stories I wrote regarding the M1-Garand for my book.