Do I Support Full Stack QA/SDET? Or It's Just a BuZZ Word?

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[pramodkumarmohapatra]

Nowadays Interview requirements:
Web/Mobile & API Automation, Performance, security, database, OOPs concept, programming language, Cloud, Devops, Docker, Kubernetes, Linux commands

Meanwhile actual project work:
Pure Manual Testing

[softwaretestingmentor]

Spot on Naveen! This term has been evolved just for marketing. I was shocked to see how people are marketing their courses naming them as full stack QA.

[vikalpandey]

I am agree with you naveen, every one can not be perfect in each tool like selenium (java, c#,phython), rest assured, jmeter, security testing or other type of testing at the same time, people can have basic knowledge about all but can not gain so much confidence if not really worked on it, if some one worked on any tool and not got chance to work on same tool again then after 3 or 4 yr he will forgot,
it industry realeses many only functional automation tools every year
, now these days managers are hiring a single qa and expectations are
1. All ui test cases should be automated
2. All api test cases should be automated
3. Performanace testing
Test cases, test plan, docs
Manual testing plus other requirements discussion meetings ect
Whole team is distributed in different locations, and everything happen in agile env, I think that people becomes robot after few years ha ha ha haa

[namitajoshi]

Such a big relief to hear this from someone who has expertise in this area!

[ItIsNot-]

I saw this trend coming. Glad Naveenji you made a video on this. It is basically becoming like jack of all trade master of none. Knowing a language/technology is something and using it for professional purposes in a project is something different. This is the root cause of why 70% of the industry thinks that cucumber is BDD.

[chetanpatwal]

Happy new year to you too, Naveen! Thanks for putting up a video that goes a little against conventional wisdom (which is generally dictated by the guys who don't have a testing-background). While it's good to be a multi-faceted testing resource, but it's almost impossible to be a master of all. Maybe a full-stack developer is a possibility, but a full-stack tester is an impossible event. You can't master everything-- functional testing, non-functional testing, security testing, a plethora of automation tools, and the domain knowledge of all businesses.

[PratikTate]

You are a Superman, you excel in all. 😊

[potnurunaveen]

True, it’s not easy for a QA to become pro in each and everything.

[jaykishoreduvvuri]

Awesome Naveen 🎉 Well pointed. Let’s bring this as a revolution from all of us together and condemn people from using such words which will never happen in reality in QA world. Well said Rockstar 🎉.

[socialmedia]

Thank You Naveen for posting this video and putting the message out there. This Buzz word has put unnecessary pressure on us to strive for something that is impossible achieve. In the pursuit people loose their health, work life balance, mental peace.

[praveenify]

I completely agree with U on this. I am seeing Testers on social media who are running behind to learn everything !! Instead of becoming perfect in the first few important skills. I have taken interview candidates who are good in Coding but When I ask them to write small bug details of login page failure, then they fail to give correct info in the bug. It is very important to be strong in your skills firsts and then have a small overview or basic knowledge of other things but never rush to learn all... Be Tester with a logical mind but not a computer with pre-defined commands... Thanks for this video Naveen

[shivjirwankar]

I also have the same view on this. Given today's hectic work schedule and new tools coming to the market every now and then, it is literally not possible to excel in every technology involved in testing. So, its better to have an expertise in a specific technology. These so called full stack SDET engineers are nothing but jack of all trades and master of none.

[ParagOak]

When job advert opens with “Full stack” you just know that usually means “one person wanted to do the job of two”

[keshavdwivedi]

I would absolutely agree with you Naveen I gave interviews recently and The kind of expectation they have from 4 year guys is just mindblowing
HR from many companies are given a script in which you have to explicitly specify your work experience on each and every tool
I have been asked questions like how much total experience you have ?
Then how much out of that on selenium?
How much experience on appium?
How much on api testing or rest assured?
How much experience on jmeter or cloud/devops tools??
How can a person calculate his experience on each and every tool separately and these days hardly any company writes in JD that person should have good manual testing skills on web and mobile apps.
I have personally tried to correct some of HR that QA guys dont work like this.

But its sad that this has become a marketing startegy while hiring to build or showcase the JD in such a way that builds the repo of the company.

[ASeekerInCosmos]

Thanks for this. I was freaking out as many companies are using this term more often than not

[agnipkarmakar]

Hello Naveen, currently in my organisation I am a part of a R&D team working as a Test Engineer. Below are my job functions:

1. Writing API Autmation test case using groovy gradle.
2. Writing automated functional test case using LAMP (Ubuntu, Apache/Nginx, sql, PHP)Stack.
3. Writing UI Test cases using Java selenium.
4. Executing load testing using our own performance testing tool.
5. Security testing using zap, wireshark
6. Making test plans and test cases for manual scenarioes (having basic overview on Jmeter)
7. Create and maintain CI/CD pipeline in semaphore for api automation stack
8. Test Deployment steps in AWS manually (OPSWORKS)
9. Got opportunity to to migrate a application into AWS EC2 alone.

I am definetely not an expert in all of this, but eventually my job requires me to perform these and even I enjoy doing the versatile work. What is your take on this job role? Do you find it a Full Stack QA Profile? @Naveen Please share your view on this :) .Thanks in advance .

[santhoshprabuvenkataramana]

Nice one Naveen... I totally agree on what you said.. I am not sure if industry or companies are expecting everyone to know everything but the hiring managers should understand the reality... you cannot excel in every thing you touch.. end of the day we are humans and not machines...

[nitinjain]

Great point Naveen sir. I was interviewing for SDET role recently in a very good organization. They asked me everything like performance testing, API automation, UI automation, java programming and manual testing. In the 5th round, a senior Dev engineering manager asked me for the tech stack of my recent project and I told him that the project's frontend was in Vue JS. Then he started asking me React JS and Vue JS related questions. and obviously, I was unable to answer many of the questions. And guess what I got rejected. I didn't get what exactly they were expecting out of an SDET.

[anshumansehgal]

Totally agree with you Naveen! Great video

[RajKumar-ijrr]

Yes you're absolutely right.. It's really headache.. How one can be experience in all these tools at same time and things should remember and answer these in interview..oops my mind says some times you are running out of memory.. Free up space using delete operation..