“You can do all of that in Ableton”

[lanierwexford]

It doesn't make one of them good. It doesn't make one of them bad...it just makes you Awesome!!

[wilfullness]

It's just not either/or it's Both/and. There's no war. You do you.

[ForenaamAkternaam]

I doubt I even can. Hardware just inspires me so much more.

[victor.b-mp]

it's also possible to set a limitations in DAW workflow

[fiercelaststand]

I think this video captures everything there is to say on this perennial debate. Good job!

[dr.guyshkolnik_composer]

100 percent. I see guitarists loving the feel and look of their guitars, I feel the same way about a fine sounding (and looking) hardware synth or in my case my Nord piano.

[JeffHendricks]

Been struggling with getting quality final mixes/automation with hardware. I 100% agree hardware is more inspirational, but I just can't afford the gear it takes to do what I want without a DAW.

[ryan.noakes]

Change the process, change the outcome.

[tendrel_sound]

The only “dawless” is 100% analog. If your setup has any digital audio whatsoever, it is at least partially a Digital Audio Workstation. Use what you like to use!

[kvmoore]

My creative inspiration comes from playing with hardware. However, I can create in either (hardware or software).

[YehudaSamson]

Hardware can produce a cohesive sound. It’s the best way to learn how to go from a to b. But there’s also GAS. We can give ourselves limitation in a DAW as well 😅 When is a limitation an excuse to buy new hardware? Just asking for a friend btw..

[jw]

I prefer to be limitless in my creativity 🤷‍♂️

[chrismillett]

Ugh, a totally rationale opinion shared kindly. So not YouTube. Thanks JNJ!

[andrew-pc]

Yeah I agree with this. I guess maybe people say “you can do that in the DAW” as a way of saying you don’t need to spend all that money. Obviously your point is that buying the gear will lead to a different path. But it costs money to get there. Personal choice on whether that’s worth it to someone.

[vecvan]

speaks of limitations
used 2 $2500 DAW-in-a-boxs

[oystercatcher]

To take it to the ridiculous extreme you could enter every sample in a 44.1kHz waveform by hand. What matters is the efficiency and flexibility of the tools to get you there

[craigsurette]

Maybe I am missing something, but, i have yet to find any VST instruments or effects, that can create the same quality of raw, present, saturated sound, like even a cheap analog synth through pedals into a bass or guitar amp.

Those sounds fill a room, and I am in a Doom/Psych/Stoner band, and i need my sounds to do so, especially live.

Having to carry around a minivan full of gear to play a show sucks, so I have tried all sorts of modeling VSTs, but especially for the sorts of sounds i need the VST based in the box style of doing things always sounds far too anemic

If anyone has any idea as to how to get around this, i am all ears.

[burmanon]

Mixing is certainly possible and in the box with someone who knows their stuff and their plugins. But creating, generally comes out bland if created in the box.

[eyvindjr]

True, but one is WAY more expensive than the other. I feel analog people love to flex their setups while feeling superior🤷‍♂️

[andreasoberg]

Dawless just seems inefficient to me. How can I edit 20 instruments with automation curves with a tiny screen? Im sure it can be great for some things and a lot of fun. But for complex or sounds design no thanks.