Why the Spacing Guild Never Took Control of Arrakis | Dune Lore

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Exploring the reasons behind the Spacing Guild's decision to refrain from directly taking control of or governing Arrakis, despite their vital dependence on its spice production.

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The Guild, like the Bene Gesserit and the Bene Tleilax, understood the notion that's it's better to be the power behind the throne rather than on it. It helps explain the intense rivalry between those three organisations. They're all manoeuvring and scheming in the same shadows.
Another well thought out and presented video, Elaine. Thank you.

kdog
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Guild safe and easy path was a path that lasted longer than other groups with more ambitious goals.

marknovak
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The guild was like water, always seeking the path of least resistance.

richardpagan
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The downfall (or eventual downfall) of every tyrant that has ever existed, was their greed for ultimate power. Having ninety percent of the power is enough. If you fight for ultimate power, then you’ll always be fighting for it… and, eventually lose everything

JRandaII
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One of the things i like about dune is the starting political situation highlights that power is about controlling the keys to power. (there’s a video i think by cgp grey on the topic)

Most political situations are more fraught than they appear in summaries. the emperor holds support of 4 keys to power. The sardukar, the landsrad, the choam company, and the bene geserat. but by the time of dune, all 4 are faltering.

The sardukar, losing their edge, coasting on reputation. The landsrad discontent growing after the death of Leto, The choam’s loss of control of the spice, and the bene geserat losing control over a major faction of religious fanatics they created.

the power only worked because the emperor had a collection of inter-connected powers that all relied on the other pieces. He could play them against each other. And eventually, something disrupted the balancing act. Great insight into the fall of an autocratic system.

DeadSpatula
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In the later books, the Ixians develop Mechanical Compiler Navigators to compete with the Guild. More fun to be the Kingmaker than to be the King.

robertfrost
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Ironic. The beings with the most powerful physical perception in the universe, had the most limited foresight. Beautiful

zpkjclg
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I think that was a superb analysis and explanation of the Spacing Guild's Modus Operandi. I especially liked the way you compared them to large Oil Companies here on Earth, a very apt and accurate analogy indeed. Excellent presentation.

lsporter
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I had wondered about this for quite some time. Thank you for clearing this up, Nerd Cookies!

warriorsheartcosplay
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Excellent topic and really well presented-hadn’t really thought of it like that. Well done indeed and many thanks

niyanlan
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The Navigators dependency on spice also altered their very way of thinking. It is possible that they actually lack any ambition out of drugs mollesse. I think Herbert describes them as literally space junkies, their intellect dimmed by their power to see near future. We have at least three clues of this in Dune and Dune Messiah.

1) At the end of Dune, the Padishah Emperor turns to the two navigators present in his retinue to ask them their opinion: they answer that they can't see the future because of the nexus, but reassures the Emperor that Paul also can not. The Emperor then realises that the two navigators can't think by themselves, that they are totally dependent on their ability.

2) In the appendix, the Bene Gegesserit is said to be aware that the Guild had an "inept" way of exploring higher dimensions.

3) In Dune Messiah, Edric is depicted with utter contempt by the other conspirers (Mohiam, Irulan and Scytale): they see him as a pedantic idiot whose usefulness is limited to his ability to screen the conspiracy from Paul's vision

stefbeg
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Thanks Eline. Perfect topic for who enjoyed the 1984 version but never read the books

Agamon
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to me it makes sense they would act as they did with just their limited prescience, even though it led to their stagnation everyone was dependent on them many more thousands of years than even the god emperor ruled. bad for humanity in an innovation sense but they kept their spot a long ass time. they could have put more into looking past the spice and ftl travel monopolies themselves though, they had the time and resources

dustinpierce
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Could you make a video about the animals in Dune!? Besides the sandworms, we have D-wolves, laza tigers, etc. It would be amazing.

GuilhermeMBarros
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I feel, if the guild did take over, it would be short-lived because of their addiction to the substance. They would go overboard & shut out everyone else, and the transportation lines of the galaxy would fall apart.

Koomoa
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Your comparison of the Guild to our real life oil companies is spot on!

bradleynoneofyourbizz
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Can't get destroyed if you're not on the battlefield.

neondemon
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What a well thought out analysis. I especially like the comparison you made to the oil companies. Thank you!

judysmith-randle
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Great video. Villeneuve really needs to better address the Spacing Guild in the next film. One cannot gloss over their significance in the Imperium.

quentincollins
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Well, to be fair, they basically had control for 10.000 years.
Not a bad run

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