I Interviewed Undertale's Music Publisher

I Interviewed Undertale's Music Publisher. Following up on my video talking about how Undertale's Music is in Danger.

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Undertale's Music is in Copyright Hell. Today I interviewed a representative from Undertale's Music Publisher Materia Music to talk about it and why these things may happen. We go in depth to talk about fangames like Undertale Yellow and including music from Deltarune as well.

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Undertale is a game made by Toby Fox. Undertale Yellow is a fangame that took 7 years to develop. I did not use Undertale or Deltarune's OST or Soundtrack in this video.

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[CiblesGD]

UNDERTALE FANGAME MARATHON STREAM FOR CHARITY ON APRIL 27TH!!!

[ShayyTV]

As many issues as we've had with all of this, I have a lot of respect for Jamie appearing on camera and answering questions in this format. Content ID being janky doesn't help anybody in this situation, but I do hope that this leads to creators being able to have a more open communication about this stuff with Materia instead of getting information through another Wolff thread causing massive issues.

[Jamie_Materia]

Thanks for having me on! I really enjoyed getting to chat about this stuff for once and I'm always happy to shed light on it to benefit the community.

[Shabalabadooba]

Sebastian Wolff vs Toby Fox is some Waluigi type shit😭🙏

[CyborusYT]

I commend you for putting undertale yellow music in the background. That's so funny

[Yuti]

I wish this happened BEFORE Wolff became an issue. Materia has always been a sort of copyright demon in the Undertale community, but we’ve never really gotten a look at their legal side until Wolff went way too far.
Basically, an interview like this should’ve happened MUCH earlier.

[RipVanFish]

My god, this just highlights how AWFUL YouTube's claiming system is.

[RainbwSpctrm]

Much needed interview honestly. It's honestly irksome to have to constantly receive copyright claims, even moreso as a channel of my scale. The kind of thing that leaves me reeling back, going "Ugh."

[positivity]

This whole situation is less a fault of materia music and more a critique of copyright and the music industry.

[shallowtbh]

If I understood it correctly, Jamie here says that the UTY copyright drama happened because UTY uploaded its music without getting the proper license.
This doesn't make sense to me. I thought UTY used DistroKid (a music distributor) to upload its music? Or is it because they uploaded their music to YouTube before getting a distributor? (Edit: Yes, that is the reason, Jamie confirmed it in the replies to his own comment in this video.)

Does this also mean that all Undertale remixes require a music distributor to be uploaded? Music distributors cost money, after all.

Also, as a musician I find it very concerning that Content ID finds videos to copyright claim based on the melodies that songs use. It's very easy for two people to come up with the exact same melody without ever interacting with each other, and it's even easier to subconsciously add melodies from songs you've heard without noticing. This system needs to change.

[necrostar]

Huh, ngl, I'm impressed. Jamie seems like an overall chill guy and he went very into detail (as much as he could anyways) on all the questions. Thank you very much you two, have a great day.

[The_One_In_Black]

The fact that remixes even need a license and don't count as the new compositions that they are is wild to me.

[TheSpriteWarrior]

Even if my question did not appear, it was answered indirectly, so I am satisfied with that

[SimisearOfficial]

I forget what the specifics were, but I saw a twitter thread around the time the initial backlash against Sebastian happened where someone claimed to have worked on an official Undertale project, and after badmouthing Sebastian, had their name removed from the project credits even though they did a lot of work on it

Edit: Found it, Laura Platt posted about having her credits removed from the Deltarune Chapter 1 Piano Arrangement Book which she composed the piano arrangements for after publicly talking about her experiences with Sebastian. What on gods green earth is “well intentioned” about that?

[VERGIL...-]

Absolutely insane how Materia seems to be a lot more professional and polite then they seemed at a first glance
I thought they were an evil company or some shit but this video showed a much brighter side of the company
And even the polar opposite, Sebastian seems a lot more of a respectable guy thanks to that explanation

(given he is the CEO he coulda set it up so no one talked badly of him so i am forced to give that part the benefit of the doubt here)

[ofituder]

sounds like a music publisher bossfight with the music in the background

[TemperanceSunlight]

One of the most difficult areas are copyright law. This is so interesting, specially with the explanation of how the claims in google works.

[lilyawoodburn]

The explanations of how YouTube's backend (poorly) handles the copyright claims, and why music remixes were getting claimed due to lack of license, actually make perfect sense. Props to both Cibles and Jamie for being super professional about this whole thing and shedding light on what happened and why!

[kaya_stu]

11:10 "licence before you post" is something I needed to know

[InternetFanatic]

It’s nice that Materia turned to be better than it looked and things were caused by just YouTube Automations
phew… 😅

Also damn Undertale Yellow was so good and Undertale Like that Copyright seemingly harmed it, even Google recognized it as it’s own game