Big Ben vs. Eli Manning: Which QB had a better career? First Take debates

Big Ben vs. Eli Manning: Which QB had a better career? First Take debates
Stephen A. Smith, Damien Woody and Dan Orlovsky debate whether Ben Roethlisberger or Eli Manning had a better career following Big Ben officially announcing his retirement after 18 seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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[kmo]

Its interesting Molly is not interrupting Dan when he's talking cause she agrees.

[jrowe]

There’s no way this is an actual debate

[Adamovic]

Do they understand English??? Moment does not equal CAREER. If they're talking about the 2 SBs, heck Foles has an MVP against Brady....

[cjavy]

I love how they always talk about the David tyree catch but they forgetting that perfect pass to Santonio Holmes in triple coverage for a game winning TD in SB 43 ?

[dis]

How is this even a conversation?? Ben made the playoffs twice as much as Eli, better stats, more wins, played in the toughest division in football for years and had to deal with Brady, Manning, Rivers and Flacco. The AFC was way tougher than the NFC during their careers. What a joke!

[mattr]

In 2012 eli had the 25th ranked defense and dead last in nfl in rushing. But eli didn’t do anything lol

[MrScans]

Ben is going into the Hall, no brainer. Eli induction is questionable. I'm not saying he want, but it's not automatic. With that being said Ben was the better of the two.

[Harker]

2011 Giants had a bottom 2 o-line and a bottom half defense.... Btw, in 2007, the Giants defense was also bottom half. People are misremembering just because of the sacks. Sacks are great, but stretched over a season is far and few in-between. Not only that, the Giants did not have a good pass blocking o-line. They had a great run blocking one though. Don't conflate pass blocking and run blocking.

The Giants have not been a good organization. Anything that was good left when Wellington handed the reins over to his son.

[Donny_Double_Dip]

I love Eli but it’s definitely Ben. That lady is so annoying she ruins any argument there might have been.

[nightskyedits]

I love how they mention the two Super Bowls over Brady and then disregard using the playoffs as a statistic when Stephen A says Ben appeared more. Not to mention that it was literally impossible for the Steelers to play the Patriots in the super bowl, and that Brady and Roethlisberger only met once in the playoffs (which Ben lost but hey). I think both are very accomplished QB’s, but I give Ben the slight edge.

[brandonkee]

Stephen A “Molly will get sensitive, who do we call you ‘Molly Orlovsky’?” 🤣🤣

[bjb]

The producers in the ear told Stephen A and Woody to fall asleep at the same time.😂

[GNXXRAY]

Big Ben finished his career in the Top 5 of most categories…but has the ALL TIME RECORD for 500 yard games…regular season and playoffs.
Only player in history with back to back 6 TD games. Most perfect QBR games.
Passes over 40 yards…
The list is ridiculous.
Eli was great…
Rivers was great…
I don’t think any teams history would be different had you switched up those guys in a different order. No team would have been disappointed.
That 2004 draft class for QB’s was the best we will ever see.

[benwilson]

How Dan Orlovsky still has a job is beyond me.

[saint]

Eli got taken by the downward spiral the NY Giants still haven't covered from. Bad GM, bad coaching, bad O-line, poor running game, & poor D generally.
Giants QBs haven't been good since.

[mrmaxxx]

Big Ben in a blowout and not even close Eli came up clutch in the post season mediocrity alot of his career

[worldtree]

They’re in the same tier but Ben slightly due to longevity and production. It is important to note he always had better coaching and support, but it is what it is. Manning’s Bowl wins are more impressive too but outside of those runs he doesn’t have many playoff moments. Ben has a couple.

[PD-uwkf]

molly makes the dumbest arguments. "who knocked off Brady? Eli." okay, but so did Nick Foles. are we going to praise him for that? his catch was just as big as any of Eli's throws.

[officialprexxure]

4:04 I'm speechless lol....Ben had a better career if Eli Manning would have gotten traded I wanted to trade he probably would have had a better career

[brunonogueira]

Dan's arguments doesn't change the fact Big Ben had a better career. The discussion is not about who was the better QB or who had more help. Maybe Eli was better, maybe in a different team he would have had a better career, none of that change the fact that Big Ben had a more successful career.