TOURER vs OFF-ROADER. I went too far towards Tourer.

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The title of this video is "TOURER vs OFF-ROADER. I went too far towards Tourer"
A full-length presentation as I walk around the Aussie dream Tourer and deliver my verdict. And I bet it's probably not what you expect.

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[flysoutbackadventures]

After watching this video. And many others of yours. I have come to 2 conclusions.

1/. You are correct. The electronics running your system is way to complex. I believe very much in the K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) policy for off roading and camping/touring.

2/. You seem to run like a bull at a gate with your builds. You have a preconceived idea b4 you start. And you will not deviate. Instead of letting it come slowly and naturally. In other words letting the project develop a life of its own.

And most importantly this is not a criticism of you. ( as i know I will get a lot of negative feed back ). Just my opinion/observation.

[timewithtofu]

This guy’s passion and brutal honesty is remarkable. He put together an overlander’s dream build and was like: “ehh, not for me”. After all that work, a typical person might have a bit of bias and overlook flaws. Not this guy. Awesome video

[iansmith]

The next build should be a minimalist off-road overlander. The challenge of taking less- without impacting on the enjoyment of the trip.

[davidwoods]

People, go back and watch Andrew's intro tag that's on every video. Two keys: 'Watch me build trucks' and 'travel to the remotest parts of the world'. Well, the second is hyperbole given the world we now live in, but if the vehicle Andrew builds (with sponsorship) can't achieve that second key task, it's gotta go bye-bye, preferably while it can command the highest possible resale price. Andrew has tried and tried again to create the perfect do-it-all vehicle, and until Toyota, Quick Pitch, ARB, or someone else markets a magic wand that overrides the rules of physics, building a long-haul 4WD is going to be about determining what compromises the owner is willing to accept. The 'Dream Tourer' proves there's a limit. Maybe Andrew needs multiple vehicles for different objectives? And multiple aircraft? :-)

[builtxploration]

I have always truly appreciated your honesty. Especially when being critical of your own decisions. That requires a huge level of humility. Thanks.

[technopsychobedlam]

I said months ago that this was too big and heavy and didn't have enough off-road capablility and was told I was being too critical by other commenters. Months later Andrew arrived at the same conclusion.When you put a GVM upgrade on a vehicle and its still too heavy...well the message is pretty clear.

The only surprise is it took him that long to realise.

[JimYeats]

I feel like the last troopy build was the best one I’ve seen of all your different builds. Thing was just perfectly set up. Great mix of off road and tourer.

[MohammadKhan-nbxl]

For an ordinary person like me its a $200k rig... way out of the limit of 99.9% driver. But i like to watch these type of enjoyable video coz its free. Good luck andrew . Merry Christmas & happy new year .

[Michael_Mears]

It'd be nice if one of your next builds were built to a price perhaps more realistic to a greater number of people. It's easier to do anything or everything when sponsors are throwing gear and kit at you, either for free or at a discount. (Good on for you for that, I must say. You've shown so many products I didn't even know were on the market.) To place a dollar limit on the mods for whatever the donor vehicle is, and decide from the outset the main purpose, would be a very worthwhile exercise. You have enough audience base, even if it's only your Patreons, to allow input from others in the direction of such a build.

[kellydrolet]

Back to basics. When is enough - enough? The electronics, battery management systems, radios, .... You mentioned Snow master. When I looked them over at the 2018 Overland West Rally there were 3 factory engineers from the snow master factory standing over our shoulders listening to our questions, and comments. Everything from door access, handles, the remote control, weight, etc. was being recorded. All for ideas on improvement. KISS - and something you can fix on your own. Whether touring or remote off-road travelling - being able to trouble shoot and fix is way more important than having a remote app to fire up the water heater or travel buddy. KISS

[boringusername]

That's the third time you've owned a double cab 79 and each time it's been a compromise too far. I can't think of a vehicle that suits you better than a troopy. However it would be cool to see you take on something other than a land cruiser just to see what you would do with it! What about a more affordable vehicle? People really enjoyed you Africa 105 build, partly because of Paul Marsh but also because it was more attainable.

[jules]

The fine print comment about Alucab makes me reluctant to buy any of their products. I know they have a lot of great products but if they or their distributors don’t encourage negative comments about their products it worries me that they don’t care for feedback or customer satisfaction.

[sheldoncelliers]

I’d still really like to see a Mercedes G-wagon chassis cab build. The Offroad capability is really great and the back allows you to build whatever you want.

[bannedoneice]

Almost an hour of Andrew thoroughly going through his build made my day !

[PropanePete]

I've owned 4WD vehicles since 1968, never been without one, worked in the bush, remote areas, etc. I watched every episode of your build and I was impressed with your passion and fascinated by the technology and attention to detail. About half way through the build I couldn't help feeling that it was getting away from you. Armed with the lessons you've learnt from this project I think your next vehicle will be exactly what you need and I look forward to watching the process.

[musokid]

I actually really liked the most recent vehicle you built and sold in Africa. I think something like that vehicle here in Aus is what you want.

[clp]

Hi Andrew SPW! I'm a bit late on this comment, but figured I had something relevant to add: based largely on your earlier reviews my wife and I bought ourselves a Tommy Camper (an early onset midlife crisis likely provoked by COVID lockdowns)! We had the 1st of two Tommy Campers brought into NZ and we've just returned from our maiden voyage around the South Island.

After our first trip in this camper the ONLY thing we can think about is how to get back out in it. I've never slept so well or enjoyed such an easy camp set up, I've also never spent so much money on recreational equipment, but despite that neither myself nor my long-enduring wife had the least regrets after our first trip.

Now this brings me to my main point: how can you sell your beautiful new rig?! I won't use the words "betrayal" or "heartbroken" or "full of a blind, all consuming rage", but I was looking forward to more Tommy Camper content from you! That being said *sigh* I respect the decision, and I understand the need for hardcore off-roading ability in your hardcore and sun baked neck of the woods; NZ is a touring rig country for sure. OBVIOUSLY you're making a huge mistake selling the Tommy Camper, but terrible decisions make for great content anyway, so should be good as gold (just busting your chops) :-)

I will end by saying that: despite the relentless nitpicking and what I suspect is clinically diagnosable "fussiness" when it comes to your rigs, you've been right about literally EVERYTHING that's overlapped with our own build, and you've saved us from a number of expensive disappointments, so thank you. I only wish you were 2 meters tall like me so you'd solve a number of "tall guy problems" that I end up having to deal with (the biggest being that the Land Cruiser utterly fails for taller drivers as the left leg has no place to rest as there's no centre console).


All the best from an ex-pat NY Yank living in NZ, maybe we'll see you on the trail some day.

[syferone]

I’ve always thought that you’ve gone full tourer when you completed this rig. Bring back the Troopy with a fully modified rear camper space.

[havoqrules]

I saw your car up on Carsales last weekend and I'm not surprised you're selling it. You never seemed quite happy with it and seemed to be trying to convince yourself that it was the right car for you. Even just minor things like trying to park it get quite tedious when it's as big as it is.
I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next!

[jowly]

Andrew not knocking you....this is primarily a filmaking channel that just happens to have 4WD content. Prior experience of decades past can be easily confused for dining out on former glories. Building vehicles is one aspect, actually using them for the stated goal is another. That's ok if you're happy to take the "Men's shed, telling war stories" direction with the channel. Limited appeal after a while. As time passes, taking every comfort and convenience on a trip, defeated by flies etc, begs the question, "why not just get a caravan"?